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02:44 < maaku> justanotheruser: thanks for the feedback, it gives me some insight and context that would have sucked many weeks of my own effort to discover my self
02:45 < maaku> justanotheruser: I'm considering a project for which "revive NE1" was a logical first step, but by the sound of it a ground-up reimplementation would be a better choice
02:46 < maaku> I'd be throwing out most of the UI/UX anyway since the interface would be AR
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04:50 < kanzure> maaku: hey i could have told you nanoengineer sucks :-)
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04:52 < kanzure> i think nmz787 also spent some time on this problem as well
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06:30 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=ded488c9 Bryan Bishop: disable menstruation >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/genetic-modifications/
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07:08 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17430475
07:08 < yoleaux> What life could be like for civilizations 1 trillion years from now | Hacker News
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11:37 < nmz787> ebowden_: I passed your question along
12:38 < nmz787> ebowden_: 12:24 < solarnetone> nope. it uses a nikola tesla based impulse wave generator to exfoliate the material.
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12:40 < nmz787> heath: ^
12:47 < l_wl> supsup
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16:40 < kanzure> .wik patterned atomic layer epitaxy
16:40 < yoleaux> kanzure: Sorry, that command (.wik) crashed.
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18:10 < nmz787> kanzure: isn't that just ALD + lithography?
18:10 < nmz787> .wik atomic layer deposition
18:10 < yoleaux> "Atomic layer deposition (ALD) is a thin-film deposition technique based on the sequential use of a gas phase chemical process. ALD is considered a subclass of chemical vapour deposition. The majority of ALD reactions use two chemicals, typically called precursors." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_layer_deposition
18:12 < nmz787> seems so according to https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/cvde.201402012
18:12 < nmz787> .title
18:13 < nmz787> "Atomic layer deposition (ALD) is a thin film growth technique based on the repeated use of separate, saturating gas‐solid reactions. The principle of ALD has been discovered twice; in the 1960s under the name “molecular layering” in the Soviet Union, and in the 1970s under the name “atomic layer epitaxy” (ALE) in Finland."
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18:21 < nmz787> "Suntola concluded that successful manufacturing of thin film EL devices cannot be solved with conventional thin film technologies such as sputtering or vacuum evaporation. Based on his prior experience with amorphous thin films, Suntola reasoned that to get controlled properties, one has to have a well‐controlled crystal structure in the thin films. To obtain a controlled material structure,
18:21 < nmz787> “deposition”, or material transfer, may not be sufficient – in principle, what is needed is to create conditions for the controlled build‐up of the material layer."
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18:22 < nmz787> """The actual invention of ALE matured in early June 1974. Suntola describes it as follows: “We had still an empty laboratory with just tables and chairs and a Periodic Table of the Elements hanging on the wall. Looking at the Periodic Table, and thinking of the overall symmetry in nature, to me came the idea of “serving” the complementary elements of a compound sequentially, one at a time,
18:22 < nmz787> onto a surface. Monoatomic layers may be obtained if the complementary elements make a stronger bond with each other than they do with their own kind of atoms”."""
18:25 < nmz787> "The very first experiment was successful; a film was observed to grow – not, however at the expected rate, one monolayer in a cycle, but only a third of a monolayer in a cycle. It took quite some time before it was understood how the surface rearrangement accounted for the less‐than‐monolayer growth."
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18:34 < nmz787> "In the flow reactor, the doping of the ZnS layer with manganese was carried out by supplying manganese chloride with every 50th zinc chloride pulse."
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21:38 < Jenda> .title https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=5349
21:38 < yoleaux> New US Tariffs are Anti-Maker and Will Encourage Offshoring « bunnie's blog
21:41 < Jenda> .title https://arxiv.org/abs/1805.07470
21:41 < yoleaux> [1805.07470] Solving the Rubik's Cube Without Human Knowledge
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