--- Log opened Mon Jul 23 00:00:18 2018 00:22 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-suwefdmsrahimatw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:27 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-166-232.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: gone for now but not for good] 03:10 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:14 -!- jtimon [~quassel@213.28.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:20 -!- jtimon [~quassel@213.28.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:09 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:17 < kanzure> corporate labs https://patrickcollison.com/labs 05:17 < kanzure> books about such. 05:57 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:51 -!- eleitl [~eugen@leitl.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:52 < eleitl> Hey fenn, are you around? 06:53 < kanzure> no i'll have to call him 06:53 < eleitl> No need, I'll hang around until he shows up. 06:53 < eleitl> For some reason, people are becoming very hard to get hold of by email. 06:54 < kanzure> wait is your email server working 07:00 < eleitl> The leitl.org one? 07:06 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:07 < kanzure> dunno 07:18 < eleitl> That one is working. I've killed postbiota.org for time being. 07:18 < eleitl> Going to resurrect it at some point, but no time right now. 07:19 < kanzure> resurrection is often considered unnatural 07:29 < eleitl> Spam seems to be alive and well. Also something to take care of once I'm back from the US. 07:38 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jofaqwekqtweoxvh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:48 < eleitl> http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201803290068.html <-- digital savages 07:49 < docl> Hi eleitl 07:51 < eleitl> hi docl 07:53 < kanzure> docl: are you visiting marcin jakubowski? 07:55 < docl> kanzure: No, I'm currently staying with Dani Eder 07:57 < docl> That's the OCE guy. Dani might know him, since he was involved in OCE during the early days 07:57 < docl> *OSE 07:58 < kanzure> ok. i think you're in the same vicinity tho. 07:58 < eleitl> This Dany Eder: https://steemit.com/space/@lsparrish/dani-eder-retired-boeing-space-engineer-has-produced-a-bunch-of-great-content ? 07:58 < kanzure> docl: so what is he up to? tell me about automated self-replication things. 07:59 < docl> eleitl: yeah 08:01 < docl> His wikibook on the topic is a starting point: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Seed_Factories 08:01 < kanzure> yes but what is he lately up to? does he have progress? 08:02 < eleitl> docl: I'm aware of these. We discussed them with luke parrish/danie ravennest on https://www.reddit.com/r/Seed_Factories/ 08:04 < eleitl> I should probably ping Luke Parrish before I go to Portland. We might hang out for a few days on the coast, and Salem isn't far. 08:04 < docl> eleitl: Actually, that's me. I left Salem at the end of June 08:05 < eleitl> Oh, hi Luke! 08:05 < eleitl> Why did you leave Salem and where are you moving to? 08:05 < docl> Dani doesn't have a huge amount of hardware at the moment. Mainly just ideas. He also made some money from the bitcoin boom that he is trying to figure out how to intelligently allocate. His current toolset is more geared towards woodworking and so on. The location has a lot of warehouses, so he is thinking of expanding into those once he runs out of room on the property. 08:06 < docl> Hi Eugen :) 08:06 < eleitl> I'm going to SF in a week, and then going up West Coast to Portland. 08:07 < eleitl> Where is Dany Eder located? 08:07 < docl> I was starting to feel the moss grow under my feet, and realized I'd be better off with a change of scenery. Probably. I gave a full month's notice, so everything is cool with Jordan and I can move back there if I don't get sidetracked on something more interesting. 08:07 < docl> It's the address here: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:Danielravennest 08:08 < eleitl> That's good. Jordan is Germany at the time when I'm on the US. 08:09 < docl> Fairburn is a suburb of the Atlanta Metro area, but far enough in the country that there are a lot of wooded areas. Dani has a lot of a few acres of woods with a stream and an old farmhouse. 08:10 < eleitl> Strangely enough I'm helping a bit with a launch loop project in Thailand. 08:10 < eleitl> Not official yet, so can't say anything detailed at this point. 08:11 < docl> Nice! 08:11 < eleitl> Lofstrom and Knapman are involved, and they're currently at early experiment/prototype stage. 08:13 < eleitl> I've managed to persuade Mike to join me in SF to talk with Robert McIntyre and Todd Huffman. 08:13 < eleitl> Probably, the last time I go to the US, unless miracle. 08:19 -!- cloudcell [sid266768@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-flemhpvdikbolkmr] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:19 -!- Joshchamp [sid159459@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wvmmppjxrphpazdy] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:20 -!- Hoolootwo [Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:20 -!- Hooloovo0 [Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:20 -!- yoleaux [~yoleaux@xn--ht-1ia18f.nonceword.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:21 -!- Joshchamp [sid159459@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bzdibeaixdvnrilz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:21 -!- Kacia [~kacia@95.87.234.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:21 -!- cloudcell [sid266768@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xqgmefwojkhgtqse] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:21 -!- Hoolootwo is now known as Hooloovo0 09:03 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:25ac:7a2f:9da3:c74e] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:14 -!- Kacia [~kacia@95.87.234.241] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:29 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:32 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:05 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-166-232.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:14 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:20 -!- yoleaux [~yoleaux@xn--ht-1ia18f.nonceword.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:25 -!- Storyteller [~Storytell@unaffiliated/storyteller] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:32 -!- Storyteller [~Storytell@unaffiliated/storyteller] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:36 < kanzure> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/05/08/straight-out-of-the-nazi-playbook-hindu-nationalists-try-to-engineer-genius-babies-in-india/ 10:36 < kanzure> http://indianexpress.com/article/india/rss-wing-has-prescription-for-fair-tall-customised-babies-4644280/ 10:37 < kanzure> http://arogyabharati.org/ 10:37 < kanzure> riiiight.. 10:39 < kanzure> http://nuffieldbioethics.org/project/genome-editing-human-reproduction 10:40 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:42 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:50 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:52 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:53 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:55 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:52 -!- Kacia [~kacia@95.87.234.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:54 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:06 < nmz787> huh, their central office is in bhopal... I wonder if any connection to the union-carbide incident there... the shock and horror of the chemistry inspired confidence in it's power, maybe? 12:06 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:06 < nmz787> .wik bhopal disaster 12:06 < yoleaux> "" — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster 12:06 < nmz787> pfft 12:07 < nmz787> "The Bhopal disaster, also referred to as the Bhopal gas tragedy, was a gas leak incident on the night of 2–3 December 1984 at the Union Carbide India Limited (UCIL) pesticide plant in Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh, India. It was considered as of 2010 to be the world's worst industrial disaster." 12:08 < nmz787> oh, I totally assumed genetic engineering... thus the chemistry inference 12:09 < nmz787> didn't read until now they're just hoping to boost existing genetic potential via precursors supplementation, phonon vibrations (chanting) etc... 12:09 < nmz787> :/ 13:30 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-166-232.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: gone for now but not for good] 13:39 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:53 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@204.148.133.114] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:57 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:59 -!- l_wl_ [~l_wl@ip-173-120-128-113.kscymo.spcsdns.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:02 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@204.148.133.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:04 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:12 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlztfgznhikrcanq] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:22 -!- l_wl_ [~l_wl@ip-173-120-128-113.kscymo.spcsdns.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:31 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@ip-173-120-160-83.kscymo.spcsdns.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:58 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@ip-173-120-160-83.kscymo.spcsdns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:00 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:01 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@205.153.92.177] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:30 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@205.153.92.177] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:36 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Quit: Malvolio] 16:36 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@205.153.92.177] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:58 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@205.153.92.177] has quit [Quit: lewl] 17:00 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:15 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jofaqwekqtweoxvh] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:03 < kanzure> "Cortical column and whole brain imaging of neural circuits with molecular contrast and nanoscale resolution" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/07/23/374140 19:04 < kanzure> "We combined expansion microscopy and lattice light sheet microscopy to image the nanoscale spatial relationships between proteins across the thickness of the mouse cortex or the entire Drosophila brain, including synaptic proteins at dendritic spines, myelination along axons, and presynaptic densities at dopaminergic neurons in every fly neuropil domain. The technology should enable ... 19:04 < kanzure> ...statistically rich, large scale studies of neural development, sexual dimorphism, degree of stereotypy, and structural correlations to behavior or neural activity, all with molecular contrast." 19:31 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlztfgznhikrcanq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:32 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@82.214.239.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:03 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has quit [Quit: ...and all my responses they stay the same.] 20:05 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:24 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@82.214.239.4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:25 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@82.214.239.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:29 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@82.214.239.4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:31 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@82.214.239.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:02 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@82.214.239.4] has quit [Quit: lewl] 21:38 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:40 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:25ac:7a2f:9da3:c74e] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:05 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:06 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:33 < fenn> eleitl: i got your email and was about to hit "send" when i realized nectome's offices might not actually be in berkeley (they aren't) and then my decision making processes got locked up for a few days... 22:46 < fenn> hazards of living with rationalists 22:46 -!- mrdata_ is now known as mrdata 23:18 < fenn> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kB-BGMXxZc 23:18 < yoleaux> Jet Engines Strapped to Feet Going 103.4 MPH! 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