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01:43 < TMA> kanzure: because _clasp_ is the name for the lisp implementation
01:43 < TMA> the nanotech software is called something different, iirc
02:35 < archels> Hype: "We need big data systems to handle big data."
02:35 < archels> [Cold] Shower: Benchmarking cutting-edge graph-processing algorithms running on 128-core clusters against a single-threaded 2014 Macbook Pro. The laptop consistently wins, sometimes by an order of magnitude.
02:35 < archels> hah
02:36 < solene> source?
02:39 < solene> also, that benchmark should have been written twice, once to be used on a 128 core cluster and another time for the macbook. You can't expect good performances in a distributed system than on a single system using the same code
02:45 < archels> http://www.frankmcsherry.org/graph/scalability/cost/2015/01/15/COST.html
02:49 < solene> archels: interesting. indeed they had to write a new implementation of this for MacOS. I'm not surprised of that. Running clusters or hypes DB doesn't make it faster. Reminds me this : https://adamdrake.com/command-line-tools-can-be-235x-faster-than-your-hadoop-cluster.html
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04:38 < eleitl> howdy.
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04:39 < eleitl> Clasp? What nano package is that?
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05:39 < kanzure> eleitl: it's the spiroligomer stuff
05:43 < kanzure> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/07/court-native-american-tribe-cant-be-a-sovereign-shield-during-patent-review/
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09:55 < xeb> --
09:55 < xeb> Instead of using a needle to aspirate and spray the samples as with standard mass specs, the acoustic mass spec sends a sonic pulse through liquid creating a ‘mountain of liquid on the surface’. For compound handling, a 2.5 nanoLitre droplet is generated and fired from the liquid surface. For acoustic MS we send a second pulse through the mountain of liquid and this explodes the 2.5nL droplet into hundreds
09:55 < xeb>  of femtoLitre droplets. In effect sending a tornado of droplets through a charged field to generate a stream of ionised particles into the mass spectrometer.
09:55 < xeb> -- https://www.astrazeneca.com/what-science-can-do/Acoustic-mass-spec.html
09:55 < xeb> .title http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2211068215619124
09:55 < yoleaux> SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class journal research
09:55 < xeb> pscht
09:55 < xeb> " Novel Acoustic Loading of a Mass Spectrometer "
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13:08 < nmz787> TMA and kanzure  - the software is CANDO
13:08 < nmz787> eleitl: ^
13:08 < kanzure> clasp?
13:09 < nmz787> yeah
13:09 < nmz787> kanzure: you should skip SF and meet me an eleitl in Portland -- avoid the SF feces
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14:29 < nmz787> this IARPA proposal instruction is pretty hard to parse "Statement of work: In plain English, clearly define the technical tasks and subtasks to be performed, their durations and the dependencies among them Note: Do not include any proprietary information in the SOW."
14:29 < nmz787> am I being really stupid, or does it seem impossible to meet those constraints?
14:30 < nmz787> or would you call out tasks like "perform <redacted> until <redacted>"?
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15:36 < kanzure> yes it's a lot of beaucracy to submit a proposal
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16:41 < maaku_> .title https://www.zotero.org
16:41 < yoleaux> Zotero | Your personal research assistant
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16:43 < maaku_> kanzure TMA: what clasp/nanotech thing? did I miss something in the logs?
16:43 < nmz787> maaku_: CANDO
16:44 < nmz787> maaku_: https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=3005738
16:44 < nmz787> .title
16:44 < yoleaux> 403 - Forbidden Access to The Digital Library
16:44 < nmz787> pfft
16:44 < nmz787> CANDO: A Compiled Programming Language for Computer-Aided Nanomaterial Design and Optimization Based on Clasp Common Lisp
16:47 < maaku_> ugh this paper is out of the stone age of type and PL theory
17:01 < kanzure> maaku_: anyway he wrote an entire lisp because apparently he has yak shaving disease
17:14 < nmz787> maaku_: I think using a good SAT/SMT solver might be able to take the place of his code... but I haven't tried coding such yet
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17:19 < nmz787> i.e. set the 3d coordinates of some atoms/molecules with charge/characteristics you need for performing some catalysis/MEMS-like-function... then with constraints of each molecule bonding and corresponding rotation characteristics, solve with constraints that the given starting atoms/molecules you provided need connected by any of the set of molecules prev described
17:20 < nmz787> at least that would be how I thought to approach it for proteins/aminos
17:21 < nmz787> but the clasp/cando doctor said, with his approach at least, that the search space would be much too large with aminos, and that's why he used a more limited set of molecules
17:21 < nmz787> I believe they had much less rotary characteristics in any available bonding
17:23 < nmz787> but SAT/SMT solvers are supposed to aide the search in smart ways... so...
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22:50 < nmz787> whee, I made a thing to do planning stuff!
22:50 < nmz787> https://gist.github.com/nmz787/61a8e8d774913a2af90471b478a09451
22:50 < nmz787> .title
22:50 < yoleaux> Converts a CSV with columns [Type, Duration, Name, Description] into Gnome Planner format. · GitHub
22:51 < nmz787> .title
22:51 < yoleaux> Converts a CSV with columns [Type, Duration, Name, Description] into Gnome Planner format (which can generate a Gantt chart). · GitHub
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23:38 < nmz787> https://i.stack.imgur.com/x8lqA.png
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23:43 < fenn> instead of typing task task task |-subtask  you could just type the name of the task and parse the punctuation
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23:47 < nmz787> you actually don't need task at all
23:47 < nmz787> nor |-Subtask
23:47 < nmz787> just ending in subtask is all that differentiates
23:48 < nmz787> for the type column
23:48 < nmz787> I guess I could make the example either A) more varied, or B) the most barebones
23:49 < nmz787> the Task and |-Subtask was the result of some other program exporting Gantt chart/task data (freedcamp.com)
23:53 < nmz787> fenn: https://i.stack.imgur.com/YHx9t.png
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