--- Log opened Thu Aug 30 00:00:54 2018 00:29 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:47 -!- juri_ [~juri@205.166.94.162] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:47 -!- juri_ [~juri@205.166.94.162] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:41 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:41 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:59 <@nmz787> shitty voltage clamp for culture_shock https://imgur.com/a/bBajjgg 03:00 <@nmz787> another view https://imgur.com/a/gzDNUt5 04:01 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@20014C4E19C12A00152C32E10F5B30ED.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:19 < kanzure> https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/9bb7un/thanks_yall/ 04:27 < kanzure> https://medium.com/@geochurch/how-we-benefit-from-getting-our-genomes-sequenced-73f173ddaab 04:28 < kanzure> "Crystal structure of the natural anion-conducting channelrhodopsin GtACR1" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0511-6 04:28 < kanzure> "Structural mechanisms of selectivity and gating in anion channelrhodopsins" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0504-5 04:29 < kanzure> obviously ai-biased job postings https://80000hours.org/job-board/ not sure who they are trying to fool here 04:29 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/TechCrunch/status/1034788076025991168 04:30 < yoleaux> George Church’s genetics on the blockchain startup just raised $4.3 million from Khosla https://tcrn.ch/2PhcIsb https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlxORT9V4AAHktj.jpg (@TechCrunch) 04:33 < kanzure> "Time-agnostic prediction: Predicting predictable video frames" https://arxiv.org/abs/1808.07784 https://twitter.com/svlevine/status/1034546178329726976 04:34 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/geochurch/status/1034885219860578304 04:34 < yoleaux> 1000000 years old. @ Brookline, Massachusetts https://www.instagram.com/p/BnEw9ZwgFkG/?utm_source=ig_twitter_share&igshid=g8m1nq6pazvg (@geochurch) 04:38 < kanzure> https://store.google.com/us/product/titan_security_key_kit 05:03 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:19 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:12 < kanzure> anyone got some really crazy plant science for me? 07:12 < kanzure> just weird shit to do with plants 07:12 < kanzure> "Fusion of bull and human sperm with Nicotiana protoplasts" http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/Fusion%20of%20bull%20and%20human%20sperm%20with%20Nicotiana%20protoplasts%20-%201983.pdf 07:12 < kanzure> ^stuff like that plz. 07:19 < kanzure> "Computing with a single qubit faster than the computation quantum speed limit" https://arxiv.org/pdf/1701.05550.pdf 07:29 < kanzure> "Protoplast fusion for the production of hybrid plants" https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jjshs1925/65/4/65_4_685/_pdf 07:57 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:b924:f471:cd9:c6e9] has joined ##hplusroadmap 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<@fenn> fltrz: 80million*32*32*24bit = 246GB 17:02 <@fenn> 8 bits per channel 17:06 <@fenn> it probably has run length encoding which is why it's smaller 17:07 < fltrz> oh wow for some brainfart I thought 32x32 is 256... right then its 4x60 ~ 240 17:07 < kanzure> fltrz have you been dead where have you been 17:08 < fltrz> I was half-dead :) 17:08 < fltrz> jk 17:08 < kanzure> better than all dead i suppose 17:09 < fltrz> I am working on too many ideas at the same time 17:09 < kanzure> there's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4ftmOI5NnI 17:10 < fltrz> right now trying to design a fundus camera system with low illumination (its perverse how much light they cram onto the retina) 17:10 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@91EC98DE.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:13 < fltrz> especially the smartphone based ones: of the tiny fraction that does reflect from the retina, only a small fraction scatters towards the pupil, and then they focus onto a point close after the 20D to 80D lens at very oblique angles, and then 30cm away (such that most of the light focused in aforementioned plane simply doesnt go towards smartphone) 17:14 <@fenn> would spreading the light dose out over time be better? 17:14 < fltrz> and of the light that does go in the general direction of smartphone only the tiny amount of steradians that the ~1mm lens occupies is used... 17:14 < fltrz> fenn, thats exactly what I am trying to do 17:15 <@fenn> you could integrate separate noisy frames, although alignment might be hard with a lot of noise 17:15 <@fenn> s/integrate/average/ 17:15 < fltrz> having a small mirror under the lens such that the iris etc are in focus too, and use lucky imaging and eye tracking to integrate the images 17:16 < fltrz> non-mydriatic 17:17 < fltrz> also using an LCD monitor as light source (polarized) and a second polarizer to eliminate reflection from the eye lens 17:18 < fltrz> by using monitor as light source one can display a blinking dot and direct the user to keep watching the dot 17:18 <@fenn> i'd guess you can do alignment with IR or red light and it would be less of a problem than white light 17:19 < fltrz> true, I am considering that too, but slightly paranoid about intensity, especially since I want the setup to be cheaply reproducible and to be able to be used by non-ophtalmologists 17:21 < fltrz> I was also considering to give each pixel on the monitor their own orthogonal binary sequence 17:21 < fltrz> in theory a photodiode should suffice! 17:21 < fltrz> instead of a camera, but I dont think thats a wise approach 17:22 < fltrz> due to low frame rate 17:22 < kanzure> nmz787: do we know any weird plant people? 17:22 < kanzure> what about that sebastien ciococococoba person? 17:25 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:36 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:40 -!- nkuttler1 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[~l_wl@91EC98DE.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:25 <@nmz787> https://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/84/i44/8444iron.html 23:25 <@nmz787> .title 23:25 < yoleaux> Chemical & Engineering News: Latest News - Mystery Behind Iron's Smells Is Revealed 23:33 < fenn> that's the sort of thing you'd expect to have been discovered in the 1960's 23:40 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:56 <@nmz787> fenn: will I be seeing you tomorrow, or only saturday? --- Log closed Fri Aug 31 00:00:55 2018