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02:53 < kanzure> maaku: correct.
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03:19 < maaku> kanzure: what's wrong with you. you should be asleep!
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07:18 < kanzure> maaku: correct.
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09:13 < kanzure> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322406251_Procreative_Beneficence_and_Genetic_Enhancement
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10:14 < kanzure> luis creze from microsoft says that electrowetting on dielectrics scales up to many billions of droplets in motion per second, use tiling for the electrodes from different devices, and capillary action to move droplets between distantly-separated boards
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10:47 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=ee995bbf Bryan Bishop: more typing >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/biohacktheplanet/2018/the-future-of-biotech/
10:47 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=819c6192 Bryan Bishop: more typing >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/biohacktheplanet/2018/the-future-of-biotech/
10:47 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=50733e3e Bryan Bishop: day two >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/biohacktheplanet/2018/day-two/
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11:48 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=4e8983a2 Bryan Bishop: more continue >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/biohacktheplanet/2018/more-than-just-dna/
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13:25 < fltrz> does anyone know of publicly available pyranometer dataset? I am interested in audiorate & audiodepth recordings of solar intensity
13:26 < fltrz> I suspect any fluctuation would be small in the relative sense, but I wonder how much RMS W/m^2 is in the AC component
13:27 < fltrz> so the absolute variation
13:28 < fltrz> since there are solar cycles we know there is variation, but for a specific idea I want an idea of the absolute fluctuation
13:31 < fltrz> the idea is as follows: if there is say audiorate variation/noise then people on the day side can record pyranometers AC-coupled to soundcardd and put it on a public repository, and all the solar panels (initially in PV parks) that are unused at night can be used as a big photo-diode sensor
13:31 < fltrz> woops that may have been to long sentence
13:31 < fltrz> and all the solar panels (initially in PV parks) that are unused at night can be used as a big photo-diode sensor
13:32 < fltrz> this signal too should be recorded at audiorate. Then we could do passive LIDAR with the sun as the light source
13:33 < fltrz> any reflection of the solar light on small objects that does hit the future huge collection of solar panels, can be recovered by correlating the noise with a delayed recording of the solar variation
13:34 < fltrz> this way we know the depth, and by recording throughoout the year, the ~AU displacement of the earth should fix the orbit parameters of the reflecting object
13:35 < fltrz> the sum area of all the PV panels together will probably always be bigger than any available optical telescope area
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13:36 < fltrz> also most objects in our solar panel are near the ecliptic plane (except for the still hypothesized oort cloud) but the PV panels are directed at the ecliptic anyway!
13:38 < fltrz> our *imaging* telescopes have the disadvantage that 1) they only view a heavily zoomed pencil beam of steradians 2) have angular resolution limit such that 2 objects smaller than the PDF of optical system will appear as a PDF, and hence 2 points close to each other are indiscernible
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13:39 < fltrz> so if a very weakly reflecting object in our solar system reflects significantly less light than whatever the huge numbers of stars behind it, we won't see the object
13:41 < fltrz> while with the audio rate passive solar LIDAR (assuming there is some absolute audiorate RMS solar power even if tiny relative to dailygiht) the starlight behind the object is uncorrelated so all objects illuminated by the sun stand out, while stars that vary in an uncorrelated manner subtract themselves away
13:44 < fltrz> if we could detect small or distant objects approaching that could have multiple uses
13:45 < fltrz> like pointing spectrometer telescopes to meteorite trajectories as they aerobrake to compile a distribution of their content while they burn up (do they all have the same composition, or is there some variabiliity? is the composition as they burn the same as any lump that occasionally remains to be found?)
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13:47 < fltrz> if we know their exact trajectories far enough in advance, we might be able to visit with a probe before it passes earth, perhaps put it in orbit
13:50 < fltrz> at 44.8 kHz the depth resolution is 6.7 km, @ 192kHz its 1.5 km
13:50 < fltrz> woops time to go to the rave party
13:56 < fltrz> it might also be used as a solar navigation system: if you know the date and orbit parameters of different planets, and what roughly the current distance to each should be, you can spot say mars by delaying the current solar signal in delay line, and locating from which direction light is correlated
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14:03 < kanzure> we are busy at biohacktheplanet.com please check back soon for regular service
14:04 < fltrz> ok :)
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16:19 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=b45390a9 Bryan Bishop: more typing >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/biohacktheplanet/2018/tristan-roberts-patti-zettler/
16:21 < kanzure> why am i here
16:22 <@nmz787> because you were conned by social pressue?
16:22 <@nmz787> pressure*
16:22 < kanzure> yes probably
16:22 < kanzure> sounds right
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16:48 < kanzure> huh.
16:48 < kanzure> oh.
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23:12 < maaku> fltrz: somewhat related:
23:12 < maaku> .title https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/session_3_-_2_x-ray_pulsar_navigation_for_deep-space_autonomous_applications_jason_mitchell_0.pdf
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