--- Log opened Thu Sep 06 00:00:01 2018 00:06 -!- Guest5439 [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:22 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:24 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:26 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:27 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:27 -!- Guest5439 [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:43 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:43 -!- abetusk is now known as Guest70084 00:59 -!- nicedice_ [~nicedice@unaffiliated/nicedice] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:59 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:59 -!- nicedice_ [~nicedice@unaffiliated/nicedice] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:11 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:12 -!- 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timeout: 252 seconds] 10:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:31 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:32 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:42 < nmz787> next installation in that FPGA persistence of vision project: https://hackaday.com/2018/09/06/fpga-pov-toy-gets-customized/ 10:42 < nmz787> (adding UART) 10:54 -!- Guest70084 [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:57 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:00 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:07 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:08 -!- abetusk is now known as Guest94032 11:29 -!- jtimon [~quassel@181.111.132.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:29 -!- Guest94032 [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:43 -!- Guest94032 [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:51 < fltrz> nmz787, so you are Al Williams from hackaday? 11:51 < fltrz> I never realized 11:53 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:09 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:09 -!- Guest94032 [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:15 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-108-56-210-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:22 -!- Guest94032 [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:34 -!- farmerwampum [~farmerwam@104.129.28.114] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:54 -!- jtimon [~quassel@181.111.132.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:02 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:04 < nmz787> fltrz: lol, no way 13:05 < nmz787> that guy sounds old enough to have hair coming out of his ears 13:05 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:10 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:12 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@2a03:b0c0:2:d0::cac:7001] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:15 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:15 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@2a03:b0c0:2:d0::cac:7001] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:16 < nmz787> looks like I may be wrong about his age https://www.linkedin.com/in/alwilliams77573/ 13:17 < nmz787> I was thinking closer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Lewis_(actor) 13:26 < fltrz> the name does sound real old, oh now I see you are *reproducing* his PoV project 13:27 < fltrz> what color are the LEDs on the board? 13:36 < kanzure> https://csrc.nist.gov/projects/cryptographic-module-validation-program 14:10 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:10 < nmz787> just red 14:40 -!- Guest94032 [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:54 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:55 -!- abetusk is now known as Guest32955 15:00 -!- jtimon [~quassel@181.111.132.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:03 -!- dezfgg [~root@85.203.47.49] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:05 -!- dezfgg [~root@85.203.47.49] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 15:06 -!- jtimon [~quassel@181.111.132.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:03 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:10 < maaku> unfortunately the validation program is basically validating conformance to nist standards, which is sometimes an anti-feature to security 16:11 < maaku> e.g. we looked at doing that for the last commercial hsm project I was on, but it was simply literally impossible because we needed to support bitcoin's secp256k1, and the nist standard we would have gone for required ONLY supporting nist currves 16:24 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:25 < kanzure> "nope, you can still get validated if you support secp256k1 via simple transformations using internal apis" 16:35 < andytoshi> there are no simple transformations to/from secp256k1 from nist curves 16:35 < andytoshi> if you have an HSM that needs to interact with bitcoin transactions in pretty-much any way, you can't get certified 16:43 < kanzure> but how do i have a certified hsm that does secp256k1? 17:05 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:08 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:11 < maaku> you definitionally cannot 17:12 < maaku> the very fact you use secp256k1 disqualifies you 17:12 < maaku> (the very valid reasoning being that protocol degregation to a weak curve could be a vulnerability, so no non-approved curves allowed) 17:13 < maaku> the longer answer is you get NIST to approve secp256k1 (as they are currently in the process of approving curve25519) 17:18 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yhejdwvcrzjetjiy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:24 -!- Guest32955 [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:37 -!- Guest32955 [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:08 -!- balrog [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:08 < kanzure> http://web.archive.org/web/20180503151920/https://blog.sldx.com/re-imagining-cold-storage-with-timelocks-1f293bfe421f?gi=da99a4a00f67 18:12 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:13 -!- balrog [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:20 -!- Jenda` [~jenda@coralmyn.hrach.eu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:22 -!- Jenda [~jenda@coralmyn.hrach.eu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:24 -!- Jenda 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22:07 < fltrz> to get analog values into the LED you might want to add a capacitor so you can modulate pulse length while removing the harmonics 22:07 < fltrz> then you don't need DAC 22:08 -!- Guest32955 [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:09 < fltrz> When I showed a self made benham disk to others, it was really noticeable that different people needed different speeds, and saw different hue and saturation colors 22:17 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:20 -!- Guest32955 [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:20 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:30 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:52 < nmz787> fltrz: hmm, neat, I will look into it... mostly this was a nice walk through FPGA programming, dissecting things has been pretty fun so far 22:53 < nmz787> made this progress figuring out how to parse the font hex in the FPGA POV project, and print it to the screen https://gist.github.com/nmz787/6a9681d93fd67e4b58ffb5caab257b82 22:53 < nmz787> .title 22:53 < yoleaux> print_font5x7.hex_.py ยท GitHub 22:54 < nmz787> (output embedded there) 22:58 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:00 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:5cad:a504:5a4c:1973] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:23 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:24 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:51 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:57 -!- Guest32955 [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:59 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Fri Sep 07 00:00:02 2018