--- Log opened Fri Jan 11 00:00:17 2019 00:04 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-woeddamtzvpcydja] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:10 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:12 -!- decal [decal@faeroes.sdf.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:23 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:32 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:05 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:13 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:21 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:21 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has quit [Client Quit] 01:31 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:39 -!- zeroach [~zeroach@209.58.184.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:50 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:17 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:17 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:19 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 02:28 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:40 < nsh> d d d definitely not counting ioctls 03:15 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:23 < archels> EU funding for healthcare startups https://wildcard.eithealth.eu/ 04:44 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 04:47 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:08 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 06:49 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:50 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has quit [Client Quit] 07:00 -!- LooCfur [~hello@loocfur.powered.by.lunarbnc.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:04 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:23 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@cpe-66-27-127-185.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:39 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:40 -!- NikopolS [~Nikopol_@109.236.81.135] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:40 -!- NikopolSohru [~Nikopol_@109.236.81.135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:49 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:51 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:03 < kanzure> .title https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/dog-breed-behavior-rooted-in-dna 08:03 < yoleaux> Dog breed personalities are rooted in DNA, study finds - Big Think 08:05 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:07 -!- NikSohru [~Nikopol_@109.236.81.135] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:07 -!- NikopolS [~Nikopol_@109.236.81.135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:36 -!- uniera_ [uniera@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/uniera] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 10:04 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:16 -!- cerulean_syzygy [~cerulean_@5072B3C6.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:18 < nsh> as opposed to? 10:19 < nsh> the intensive two week induction course into "how to huskie" that puppy-fetuses are sent on in the womb 10:20 < nsh> Canine Behavioral Assessment & Research Questionnaire (C-BARQ), 10:20 < nsh> good acronyming 10:58 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qgolhcwqxqmlsrfi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:27 -!- cerulean_syzygy [~cerulean_@5072B3C6.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.4-dev] 12:19 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:37 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:45 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:16 -!- cerulean_syzygy [~cerulean_@5072B3C6.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:55 -!- zeroach [~zeroach@97-85-210-5.static.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:56 -!- zer0ach [~zeroach@209.58.184.117] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:59 -!- zeroach [~zeroach@97-85-210-5.static.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:22 -!- cerulean_syzygy [~cerulean_@5072B3C6.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.4-dev] 14:32 -!- zer0ach [~zeroach@209.58.184.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:38 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:41 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:58 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:15 < kanzure> .title http://web.archive.org/web/20090210041125/alexepstein.com/articles/bioethics.htm 15:15 < yoleaux> Biotech vs. "Bioethics": The Technology of Life Meets the Morality of Death 15:16 < kanzure> "There is serious danger that Congress will pass a bill that bans all forms of human cloning, prohibits the use of any procedure derived from cloning research, and threatens any scientist who attempts cloning with ten years in prison." 15:20 < kanzure> "In 2001, when Advanced Cell Technology announced that it had cloned the first human embryo..." 15:24 < kanzure> "As part of endorsing biotechnology, bioethicists should morally praise the creators of biotechnology. The proper moral attitude toward the heroic scientists and businessmen who are developing this technology should be a profound respect and gratitude. As a consequence, the proper political attitude toward biotechnology is that its producers and customers should be free to pursue it as they ... 15:24 < kanzure> ...choose. The government's only role should be to protect the individual rights of these producers and customers. Examples might include protecting the intellectual property rights of scientists who discover new technologies and procedures; safeguarding an individual's "genetic privacy" by barring others from obtaining a hair or skin sample and running a genetic test on it, or even cloning the ... 15:24 < kanzure> ...person, without his permission; and prohibiting medical negligence" 15:24 < kanzure> "Unfortunately, today's bioethicists hold the exact opposite view. While today's biotechnologists are using the most advanced science and technology to advance human life, bioethicists, like the rest of today's moral philosophers, have barely advanced past the Dark Ages morally-and thus offer moral guidance for biotechnology that is inimical to the field. Where they should clarify, they ... 15:24 < kanzure> ...confuse; where they should debunk bogus objections to biotechnology, they offer a deluge of new ones; where they should morally defend the creators of biotechnology, they treat them as morally insignificant; where they should support freedom, they support bans or government takeovers that no politician would dare dream of-yet." 15:31 < kanzure> "Translation: the "humanity" of parenthood is undermined if the parent selfishly chooses not to have a retarded or deformed child, and instead takes measures to have a fully healthy one. Kass criticizes germline engineering and cloning as encouraging "society increasingly to regard a child not as a mysterious stranger given to be cherished as someone to take our place, but rather as a product ... 15:31 < kanzure> ...of our will, to be perfected by design and to satisfy our wants." 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