--- Log opened Mon Jan 14 00:00:20 2019 00:16 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:19 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:41 -!- zeroach [~zeroach@103.244.3.7] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:05 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:05 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:05 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:10 < archels> "That effect was going to play right into Trumbull's vision for Brainstorm. During the parts of the story when no character was wearing the magic headset, the film would run as usual -- 24 fps, 35mm. But when a character put the headset on and entered another character's consciousness, the aspect ratio would widen to 70mm and the frame rate would jack up to 60: Everything would seem bigger, 01:10 < archels> crisper, hyperreal. Viewers would feel like they were wearing that headset themselves -- a meta effect pushing the science-fiction plot into something approaching reality." 01:12 < archels> nmz787: I don't even know how it can take ~5 seconds to detect that an external crystal is not present 01:13 < archels> I expected things to be bad when I decided to go for this "Arduino-like" IDE & libraries, but this exceeded even my worst imaginations of the atrocities involved 01:27 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:39 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:15 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:23 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:35 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 06:49 < kanzure> 8542aa4dfa6c42d40f5b231dc8ef7aba33505b74e30654f0a0f16d948ed26f0c http://gnusha.org/logs/hashes/loghashes.007.txt 06:50 < kanzure> bb216e3b5e67c6edd6a3730bf3718fec21e435e1d50781a3e3ced589be7eee76 http://gnusha.org/logs/archives/hplusroadmap-logs-2019-01-14.tar.gz 07:04 < kanzure> "Biased nonce sense: Lattice attacks against weak ECDSA signatures in cryptocurrencies" https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/023.pdf 07:16 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/mart1oeil/status/1081984657468592129 07:16 < yoleaux> ⚠️ @Twitter is now blocking links from the Sci-hub[.]tw domain @Sci_Hub (@mart1oeil) 07:17 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/Sci_Hub/status/1084568027956428801 07:17 < yoleaux> Where is Sci-Hub content for creating mirrors? On http://sci-hub.tw/matrix to open .img in Linux use: mount -o squashfs,ro -t squashfs [number].img /mount/point PDF name is MD5 of DOI in lowercase also on torrents at http://libgen.io/scimag/repository_torrent (@Sci_Hub) 07:17 < kanzure> http://sci-hub.tw/matrix 07:17 < kanzure> hmm. 07:18 < kanzure> oh 07:18 < kanzure> OH 07:23 -!- sachy [~sachy@78.108.102.220] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:10 -!- sachy [~sachy@78.108.102.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:13 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:24 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-amkvozmuqzgjctvb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:41 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@cpe-66-27-127-185.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:48 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:48 < kanzure> "Manipulating gene expressions by electroporation in the developing brain of mammalian embryos" http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/Manipulating%20gene%20expressions%20by%20electroporation%20in%20the%20developing%20brain%20of%20mammalian%20embryos.pdf 08:55 < streety> what are the download speeds like for those .img files? 08:56 < kanzure> someone tells me they are seeing 2-3 MB/sec 09:01 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/scimag/doi.2019-01-14.tar.gz 09:02 < archels> some hilarious CES → https://threader.app/thread/1083476320808398849 09:07 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:57 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:59 < fenn> does sci-hub actually back up those .img files with bandwidth? 10:00 < fenn> this seems worse than just seeding the torrents 10:00 < fenn> "PDF name is MD5 of DOI" is ridiculous 10:03 < streety> possibly done for load balancing? 10:05 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:39 < nmz787> archels: well when I used energia ~5 years ago I didn't notice any issues... so I'd guess it's chip specific 10:39 < nmz787> archels: the workaround seems easy enough 11:40 -!- sachy [~sachy@91.146.121.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:06 -!- mrdata|| [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:07 -!- mrdata|| [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:51 -!- sachy [~sachy@91.146.121.5] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:52 -!- sachy [~sachy@91.146.121.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:05 -!- Hoolootwo [Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:11 -!- nsh [~lol@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:11 -!- Hooloovo0 [Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:15 -!- nsh [~lol@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:20 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:32 -!- sachy [~sachy@91.146.121.5] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32 -!- sachy [~sachy@91.146.121.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:09 < fenn> https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/feb/17/scientists-reveal-revolutionary-palm-oil-alternative-yeast 14:10 < fenn> i thought this was going to be a story about genetic engineering but the yeast just does this naturally 14:29 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:34 < fenn> ecover got blasted for using genetically modified algae oil as palm oil substitute 14:37 < fenn> "the new genetic engineering – synthetically modified organisms (SMOs)" 14:37 < fenn> lol 14:41 < fenn> .title https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-21284-2 14:41 < yoleaux> Impact of genetically engineered maize on agronomic, environmental and toxicological traits: a meta-analysis of 21 years of field data | Scientific Reports 14:56 < kanzure> md5(doi) is how you access the files on scihub normally so it seems that's how everything is stored. 14:56 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:07 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:19 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:47 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:08 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:08 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:09 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has quit [Client Quit] 16:18 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:23 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:33 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:37 < nmz787> you'd think the cost-benefit analysis of using a modified algae oil would have benefits far outweighing palm oil, and less cons too 17:05 -!- jb55 [~jb55@S010660e327dca171.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.3] 17:24 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/LouiseJoyBrown/status/1084829478331789312 17:24 < yoleaux> Happy 40th Birthday to my good friend Alastair MacDonald. The first IVF boy and the world’s second IVF baby. Have a great time! https://twitter.com/BournHallClinic/status/1084776944019886080 (@LouiseJoyBrown) 17:29 < kanzure> https://www.progress.org.uk/40yearsofivf 17:48 < fenn> palm oil is really cheap, due in no small part to it out-performing other oil crops like soy or canola on a per-acre basis 17:49 < fenn> the ecological cost of burning entire islands of rainforest isn't taken into consideration 17:50 < fenn> $500/ton 17:50 < fenn> the yeast thing was aiming at $1200/ton eventually 18:16 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [] 18:36 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:40 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:41 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Client Quit] 18:42 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:45 -!- Jay_Dugger [~jwdugger@47.185.249.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:48 < nmz787> fenn: well according to an uber driver who was an ex lithography engineer turned environmental consultant... he was saying reforestation would solve atmospheric CO2 levels, and that none of the major analyses take into account the shelf life (or stall time, I can't remember what he called it) of CO2 in the atmosphere... basically how long a molecule lingers before being rotated out into another 18:48 < nmz787> location/form 18:49 < nmz787> fenn: also, eco-pushers aren't supposed to be concerned with price, but rather environmental impact 18:50 < fenn> hmm 18:51 < fenn> there's just a 300% markup for "eco" products vs "normal" products regardless how much the ingredients cost 18:52 < fenn> i don't believe that reforestation would reduce CO2 levels back to normal 18:52 < fenn> we've burned way more than all the forests 18:54 < nmz787> he said something about this being proven in, I think, Hawaii 18:55 < kanzure> does fenn know about "aggressive reforestation". i think he was at that talk. 18:55 < fenn> where does all the carbon go? into living trees? 18:57 < fenn> https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/biohacktheplanet/2018/aggressively-growing-trees/ there's probably a youtube video somewhere 18:59 < fenn> china has a huge reforestation project that is failing miserably 19:00 < fenn> .wik green wall of china 19:00 < yoleaux> "The Three-North Shelter Forest Program (simplified Chinese: 三北防护林; traditional Chinese: 三北防護林; pinyin: Sānběi Fánghùlín), also known as the Three-North Shelterbelt Program or the Green Great Wall, is a series of human-planted windbreaking forest strips (shelterbelts) in China, designed to hold back the expansion of the Gobi Desert." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Wall_of_China 19:01 < fenn> his project was to eventually introduce C4 photosynthesis to vascular plants? 19:10 < kanzure> iirc just some overexpression known to cause trees to grow 4x faster or whatever 19:11 < kanzure> my understanding is that it's something pretty simple, and not yet super-engineered to see if we can get 10x faster growth or whatever 19:15 < jrayhawk> interesting 19:45 < kanzure> "If scientists agree that genetically modified organisms are safe to consume as food, then why can't they seem to agree that genetically modified humans are also safe?" 19:45 < kanzure> that cucumber might be born with hideous cucumber defects 19:58 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ttunhbtjmlawmjjo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:04 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:29 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:29 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:44 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:56 < nmz787> huh, how did I miss that talk at BHTP? 20:57 < nmz787> I guess I knew kanzure was on the job 21:16 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@174.97.113.184] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:20 -!- TC [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:54 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:55 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@cpe-66-27-127-185.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:48 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:58 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Tue Jan 15 00:00:21 2019