--- Log opened Tue Jan 22 00:00:27 2019
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00:47 < fenn> .title http://youtu.be/_iiKi0FjjUw
00:47 < yoleaux> Best of Neil deGrasse Tyson Amazing Arguments And Clever Comebacks Part 2 - YouTube
00:47 < fenn> i liked his rant about intelligence
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00:49 < fenn> t=7m30s to 12m
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08:40 < kanzure> .title https://justi.cz/security/2019/01/22/apt-rce.html
08:40 < yoleaux> Remote Code Execution in apt/apt-get
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09:03 < penguin__> Does noopept or L-theanine work for any of you?
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12:26 < superkuh> https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2019/01/18/1815156116.short Enhancing human learning via spaced repetition optimization
13:20 < fenn> i don't think less than a week is enough time for everyone to have gotten their security updates in order. that guy justi.cz released too soon
13:24 < fenn> less than a day
13:24 < fenn> jeez
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14:58 < nsh> i feel you're underappreciating the utility to those will exploit those who do not patch quickly enough
14:58 < nsh> this is perhaps an unexamined relative valuation :)
14:59 < nsh> what if i'm using large amounts of other people's computers in a barely to them discernible manner for research which will imminently benefit humanity more than most of those computer owners are capable of imagining?
15:00 < nsh> what if a substantial fraction of online computation coexistence is in fact symbiotic in a larger ecological context?
15:00 < nsh> *computational
15:01 < nsh> what if a strict optimisation of the most trivial exclusivity of control of computational systems actually tends towards a global suboptimum of other objective functions?
15:02 < nsh> WHO ARE YOU TO QUESTION MY CRIME, FENN? WHO ARE YOU TO ARROGATE THIS PAPAL INFALLIBILITY IN PROCLAMATION?!?
15:02 < nsh> nah, i'm just fuckin' wit ya :)
15:12 < fenn> you'd do better to use a botnet then
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16:06  * nsh nods
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19:18 < kanzure> .title https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00246-2
19:19 < yoleaux> CRISPR-baby scientist fired by university
19:19 < kanzure> .title http://sustc.edu.cn/en/info_focus/3056
19:19 < yoleaux> Southern University of Science and Technology Public Statement - In the Focus - SUSTC
19:21 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/bradloncar/status/1087717803849908225
19:21 < yoleaux> Wow this Editas news. CEO and CFO in the span of a month. This is the year CRISPR enters the clinic and reality sets in? (@bradloncar)
19:23 < kanzure> https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ailr8k/chinese_university_fires_scientist_who_claimed_to/
20:05 < nmz787> hmm, I wonder if a gofundme for Jiankui He would get much attention... like, raise funds to exfiltrate him to the U.S. or something
20:10 < nmz787> http://time.com/5503520/black-pepper-health-benefits/   "A group at Kansas State University found that mixing one gram of fine black pepper with 100 grams of ground beef—which works out to about a teaspoon of black pepper per half-pound of meat—almost completely eliminated the formation of HCAs during cooking. While that much pepper may be too pungent for some, the study author says".... geez,
20:10 < nmz787> the common american/westerner spice-sense is really simple/intolerable/confined
20:12 < fenn> but black pepper is gross in any amount
20:26 < nmz787> lol, ok you fit my stereotype and I am quite surprised
20:46 < superkuh> I did extractions of piperine and crystallization for cooking way back in the day. Now you can just buy it pure from longecity or however it's spelled. It's great.
20:47 < superkuh> I really like pepper. Obviously.
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21:55 < nmz787> oh, huh, there's already a gofundme https://www.gofundme.com/he-jiankui
21:55 < nmz787> but it doesn't specifically mention the funds would be used to retrieve him
21:56 < nmz787> (if he'd even want that, I don't know)
21:56 < nmz787> damn, and here I thought Jiankui was his first name
21:57 < nmz787> well, it isn't the headline, but I guess it is buried near the end "Funds will cover legal fees, relocation costs, private security, and other unforseen expenses."
22:09 < fenn> looks legit, however either nobody knew about it or nobody cared to donate
22:11 < nmz787> "indian instant pot" recipe book... yoink
22:11 < fenn> it didn't seem like he was hurting for cash
22:17 < nmz787> it just seems like a cool idea to pay some blackwater corp guys with crowdfunded money to retrieve a human gene editing scientist from the clutches of an overlord govt
22:17 < nmz787> kind of johnny mnemonic feeling
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22:18 < fenn> this was discussed in half seriousness after the kony 2012 thing but it went nowhere
22:18 < fenn> .wik kickstriker
22:18 < yoleaux> "Josh Begley (born 1984) is an American digital artist known for his data visualizations." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Begley
22:18 < fenn> hmm
22:19 < fenn> why does pepper prevent HCA formation?
22:20 < nmz787> I wonder if this was stolen https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/sys/d/portland-molecular-imager-gel-doc-xr/6793546468.html
22:20 < nmz787> "i'm not a scientist."  "I am moving and I don't need this"
22:20 < nmz787> looks like it's missing the camera anyway
22:20 < fenn> some people bid on stuff at auctions for $1
22:21 < fenn> i don't see the point of this thing anyway
22:22 < nmz787> gotta image your gels
22:22 < fenn> why is it so big?
22:22 < nmz787> probably so you can get your gel in and out without being too constrained with your hands
22:23 < nmz787> breaking a gel can mean disaster, or at least time interruption due to cleanup
22:23 < nmz787> (i.e. if you need to later extract a band of DNA from the gel)
22:23 < nmz787> or try to keep running it longer
22:24 < nmz787> I think that one has a screen on the side too, maybe, to show the image on
22:24 < nmz787> I guess the thermal printer probably would be a separate unit
22:24 < nmz787> (so you can tape an image into your lab notebook)
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