--- Log opened Wed Apr 10 00:00:41 2019 00:58 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:35 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:54 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235186137.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:54 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:06 -!- SDr [~SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:06 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:16 -!- SDr [~SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:31 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:45 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:11 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-108-45-141-95.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:17 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-108-45-141-95.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:18 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-108-45-141-95.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:18 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-108-45-141-95.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:19 < l_wl> Is there a lecture or anything that explains the picture of the black hole when released I can watch? 06:22 < kanzure> is that really the first photo of a black hole blocking light? 06:22 < kanzure> that was a rather unusual claim in the news the other day 06:24 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b13:695b:1ca8:d2bd:3609] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:28 < mnemon> l_wl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=Dr20f19czeE press conference https://eventhorizontelescope.org/ for some background 06:29 < mnemon> kanzure: yeah, first of the event horizon shadow and the accretion disk 06:31 < mnemon> the press conference involves a lot of back clapping and other non-relevant political filler 06:44 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:08 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235186137.unknown.vectranet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:26 < l_wl> ty 08:07 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:ca81:3100:5436:6d6b:e8a0:c8e8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:44 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rhyeiyqmuqslbxak] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:38 < superkuh> If you're interested in understand how the image was synthesized and the related warts check out APSYNSIM https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.00936 https://launchpad.net/apsynsim . Here's a demo video I threw together, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1pLFzc7ZZY . It already even has the ALMA core array in it's available layouts. 10:02 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:04 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:11 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:25 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:41 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:51 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:ca81:3100:5436:6d6b:e8a0:c8e8] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:03 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:ca81:3100:4dc2:cbb7:fa9e:6440] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:25 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235186137.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:46 -!- NikopolSohru [~Nikopol_@95.174.67.156] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:46 -!- NikopolSohru [~Nikopol_@95.174.67.156] has quit [Changing host] 11:46 -!- NikopolSohru [~Nikopol_@unaffiliated/nikopolsohru] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:59 -!- NikopolSohru [~Nikopol_@unaffiliated/nikopolsohru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:13 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:28 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:40 < jrayhawk> l_wl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUyH3XhpLTo 12:41 < jrayhawk> .title 12:41 < yoleaux> How to Understand the Image of a Black Hole - YouTube 12:52 -!- helleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:31 -!- sachy [~sachy@91.146.121.5] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:53 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235186137.unknown.vectranet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:54 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:03 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:13 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:15 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:16 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:19 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:31 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:50 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:16 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:22 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:33 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:38 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:41 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-73-15-72-140.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:41 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-73-15-72-140.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 17:02 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:28 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:32 -!- SDr [~SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 17:32 -!- Cory [Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:32 < l_wl> jrayhawk: (y) 17:33 -!- SDr [~SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:34 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:40 -!- Cory [Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:17 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rhyeiyqmuqslbxak] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:03 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:03 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:07 -!- helleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:34 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:35 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-108-45-141-95.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 20:23 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:59 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:ca81:3100:4dc2:cbb7:fa9e:6440] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:01 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:28 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:35 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:49 -!- periffis [~g@66.205.193.3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:49 < periffis> https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwz043/5420749 Has this been discussed? 21:49 < periffis> Or is it just bullshit? 22:06 < fenn> .title 22:06 < yoleaux> Transgenic rhesus monkeys carrying the human MCPH1 gene copies show human-like neoteny of brain development | National Science Review | Oxford Academic 22:06 < fenn> .wik mcph1 22:06 < yoleaux> "Microcephalin (MCPH1) is a gene that is expressed during fetal brain development. Certain mutations in MCPH1, when homozygous, cause primary microcephaly—a severely diminished brain." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mcph1 22:10 < fenn> we've discussed microcephalin and the difference between human and monkey microcephalin, but not this paper in particular 22:12 < fenn> Published: 22:12 < fenn> 27 March 2019 22:17 < periffis> fenn: interesting. is there any large criticism of editing certain genes at one time? don't we require certain mechanisms to support these structures? 22:19 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:25 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:26 < fenn> well, there was that movie "planet of the apes" 22:27 < fenn> i'm sure there are bio-ethics journals full of criticism for any sort of gene editing you might think of 22:27 < fenn> i don't know what structures you are referring to 22:31 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:37 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:45 -!- mrdata__ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:47 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:13 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.216] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:13 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.216] has quit [Changing host] 23:13 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:54 < periffis> fenn: well, a gene that made you grow an arm doesn't necessarily mean you changed the structure of the body enough to support the new issues of growing a third arm. 23:54 < periffis> right? 23:59 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Thu Apr 11 00:00:41 2019