--- Log opened Sat Apr 20 00:00:49 2019 01:17 -!- periffis_ [~g@155.98.131.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:20 -!- periffis [~g@155.98.131.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:20 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:44 < nmz787> not having open-source for a lot of physics tech is really really annoying 01:49 -!- periffis_ is now known as periffis 02:39 < archels> antibiotics woooo 02:39 < archels> damn you all to heck, Lyme spirochetes! 03:19 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:23 -!- Guest96480 [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:17 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:11 -!- periffis [~g@155.98.131.5] has quit [Quit: periffis] 06:12 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:14 -!- superkuh_ [~superkuh@2601:284:8200:78b8:95b5:9e48:e757:90c5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:53 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:31 < kanzure> japan wants regulation http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0005687752 08:29 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:57 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:ca81:3100:9018:9211:5c11:660b] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:37 < nmz787> "A genome-edited baby may have a risk of developing unexpected diseases, with the risk passed on to the baby’s future offspring." 10:37 < nmz787> isn't that fixed with /more/ gene editing? 10:38 < superkuh_> And then the gorillas will die off in winter! 10:41 < nmz787> is that a segue to The Planet of the Apes? 10:42 < nmz787> maybe the first people to undergoe selective gene enhancement /should/ be the ultra-priveleged, with the requirement that they have a trust-fund or something like that setup for the child and the grandchild... to pay for lifelong assisted (medical and disability) care, as well as gene-editing for them 10:44 < nmz787> this still is murky with "the poor people are going to get screwed when the privileged get even more privileged" but at least it avoids the immediate "exploitation of the poor" and the whole "descendents will be screwed" sort of ideas 10:44 < superkuh_> (ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9yruQM1ggc (simpsons)) 10:45 < nmz787> ah yes, I remember that scene 10:45 < nmz787> it started with bart and a gun, I seem to recall 11:39 < kanzure> if you challenge nmz787 to a simpsons quote-off then he will be your best friend. 12:14 < kanzure> "The Silurian hypothesis: would it be possible to detect an industrial civilization in the geological record?" https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-journal-of-astrobiology/article/silurian-hypothesis-would-it-be-possible-to-detect-an-industrial-civilization-in-the-geological-record/77818514AA6907750B8F4339F7C70EC6/core-reader 12:15 < kanzure> "The habitable epoch of the early universe" https://arxiv.org/abs/1312.0613 13:11 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-108-45-141-95.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:32 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:51 -!- dustinm- [~dustinm@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:53 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:55 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has quit [Client Quit] 14:58 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:40 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@bryan.fairlystable.org] has quit [Changing host] 15:40 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@unaffiliated/nmz787] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:02 -!- king_ [~black_mam@8ta-250-2-90.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:33 -!- king_ [~black_mam@8ta-250-2-90.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:41 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:42 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:07 < superkuh_> Wild 18:22 < superkuh_> Even if there weren't rocky planets surely there were some matter arrangements in space that could set up energy gradients. 18:54 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:00 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@39.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:11 -!- balrog [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:16 -!- balrog [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:17 -!- superkuh_ [~superkuh@2601:284:8200:78b8:95b5:9e48:e757:90c5] has quit [Quit: sleep] 21:24 < fenn> an industrial civilization would leave industrial artifacts and industrial fossils 21:25 < fenn> you can't build roads and canals without making a geological record 21:33 < fenn> when the universe was 10 million years old there hadn't been enough fusion reactions to make carbon and oxygen yet 22:04 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:06 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:ca81:3100:9018:9211:5c11:660b] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:42 < archels> kanzure: no idea what mindemulation.org wants to accomplish with a website like this 23:42 < archels> there isn't really any actual information there 23:44 -!- anonnumberanon [~anonnumbe@unaffiliated/anonnumberanon] has quit [Quit: bye ;_;] 23:53 -!- periffis [~g@66.205.193.233] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Sun Apr 21 00:00:50 2019