--- Log opened Sat Jun 29 00:00:55 2019 00:04 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:21 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:5983:c203:baaa:a2a0] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 00:22 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:5983:c203:baaa:a2a0] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:27 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:30 -!- helleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:57 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:5983:c203:baaa:a2a0] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:22 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:36 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:45 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:5983:c203:baaa:a2a0] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:50 -!- justanotheruser [justanothe@gateway/vpn/nordvpn/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:08 -!- justanotheruser 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http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/austin-bitcoin-developers/2019-06-29-hardware-wallets/ 12:05 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=3b1e362e Bryan Bishop: rolling your own hardware security >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/austin-bitcoin-developers/2019-06-29-hardware-wallets/ 12:24 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=9ae1c180 Bryan Bishop: add links to things >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/austin-bitcoin-developers/2019-06-29-hardware-wallets/ 12:24 -!- nijak_ [nijak@gateway/vpn/mullvad/nijak] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:25 -!- nijak [~nijak@141.98.255.151] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:36 < nmz787_> docl: my stuff does not have piezos 12:46 < docl> nmz787_: interesting, how does the ion beam achieve such fine control? is it basically an electromagnetic raster like is used in crt monitors? 12:55 < nmz787_> yeah, it uses electrostatic fields though, not electromagnetic 13:11 < docl> that 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https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=1bb21933 Bryan Bishop: clarify bip-tapscript removes CHECKMULTISIG >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/austin-bitcoin-developers/2019-06-29-hardware-wallets/ 14:33 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@2800:a4:30bc:9d00:156f:2160:6981:37d0] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:51 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@2800:a4:30bc:9d00:156f:2160:6981:37d0] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@2800:a4:30bc:9d00:156f:2160:6981:37d0] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:20 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:25 -!- helleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:28 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:37 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@2800:a4:30bc:9d00:156f:2160:6981:37d0] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:50 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:53 -!- helleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:13 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< nmz787_> docl: but to answer your question, yes I've considered building one of those STMs... but lately I just want to build the electronics portion, then connect the electrodes across a micro and/or nanofluidic channels 21:24 < nmz787_> docl: (that I will probably prototype using the FIB) 21:32 -!- permafleek [~permaflee@c-73-240-230-141.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:32 -!- permafleek [~permaflee@c-73-240-230-141.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:32 < fenn> kanzure: this java card "halfway open source" thing seems really dumb 21:36 -!- yolocholinaaaa [~permaflee@c-73-240-230-141.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:37 -!- permafleek [~permaflee@c-73-240-230-141.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:38 -!- yolocholinaaaa [~permaflee@c-73-240-230-141.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41 -!- permafleek [~permaflee@c-73-240-230-141.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined 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