--- Log opened Mon Aug 05 00:00:30 2019
00:21 < adlai> what sort of provision is made for thawing conditions in existing contracts?
00:23 < adlai> e.g., do folks include statements along the lines of "I wish to be thawed after at least one hundred salaried man-months have been billed by persons employed after thawing, and I do not wish to be thawed by anyone who has undergone cryonics themselves because I don't trust any of you shysters"
01:24 < kanzure> yes.
01:24 < kanzure> includes things like what the future looks like; "don't resuscitate me until virtual reality works" and "don't resuscitate me until brain emulation works" etc...
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04:16 < faceface> lo
04:20 < faceface> What is a good cheap Nicotinamide Riboside, Nicotinamide MonoNucleotide and Alpha-GPC?
04:20 < faceface> Googling around and prices vary a lot
05:32 < maaku> adlai: You are allowed (even encouraged) to specify conditions. It's my own observation that the culture at Alcor is not very respectful of statements that do not conform to consensus belief, however.
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09:41 < faceface> tes
10:00 < poppingtonic> ...ting?
10:54 < kanzure> https://blog.ycombinator.com/how-biotech-startup-funding-will-change-in-the-next-10-years/
10:55 < faceface> yes
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14:00 < faceface> so I've been recommended nicotinamide riboside, nicotinamide mononucleotide, alpha GPG, Vitamin K and D and         ] [ Malvolio     ] [ permafleek  ] [ Solgriffin ]
14:00 < faceface> oops
14:00 < faceface> so I've been recommended nicotinamide riboside, nicotinamide mononucleotide, alpha GPG, Vitamin K and D and TriMerhylGlicine
14:00 < faceface> as an anti-aging combo
14:01 < fenn> K2 i hope
14:01 < fenn> the only one of these having any claimed anti-aging effect is nicotinamide
14:02 < fenn> they're all good though
14:02 < faceface> k2... OK
14:03 < faceface> Looking for good supplies, some seem to be 5 to 7 x of others
14:03 < faceface> in terms of price
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14:05 < fenn> for k2 i think you need to get a bottle of oil and it's a buttload of k2 but $50
14:05 < fenn> or chicken thighs
14:05 < fenn> alpha-GPC has always been expensive, dunno why
14:06 < fenn> some nicotinamide is derived from milk and costs more, but i doubt it matters
14:06 < faceface> the vegan stuff seems pricy
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14:36 < fenn> any choline source is better than nothing, so don't feel like you need to get the expensive super duper supplement
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15:00 < faceface> indeed
15:21 < docl> roko has been helping me develop the orbital track idea further
15:22 < docl> https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/37810/is-it-possible-to-get-a-spacecraft-into-earth-orbit-using-linear-eddy-current-br
15:50 < permafleek> faceface Please do not recommend me as an anti aging agent. I will sap the user dry and use their skin as booksleeve material
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15:50 < permafleek> Though I do nootropics but not exclusively anti-aging compounds non topically.
16:00 < kanzure> what
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17:08 < maaku> docl: are you familiar with the launch loop?
17:08 < maaku> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launch_loop
17:08 < maaku> .title
17:08 < EmmyNoether> Sorry, domain is blacklisted
17:08 < maaku> lol, wat?
17:09 < kanzure> it makes sense, the title ain't going to be anything different
17:09 < maaku> For wikipedia it should pull the first sentence instead.
17:10 < kanzure> .wik launch loop
17:10 < EmmyNoether> "A launch loop or Lofstrom loop is a proposed system for launching objects into orbit using a moving cable-like system situated inside a sheath attached to the Earth at two ends and suspended above the atmosphere in the middle." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launch_loop
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19:02 < fenn> .wik
19:02 < EmmyNoether> "Community portal – Bulletin board, projects, resources and activities covering a wide range of Wikipedia areas. Help desk – Ask questions about using Wikipedia." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
19:18 < docl> maaku: yes, it's actually a similar concept in some respects
19:20 < docl> I like launch loop, but it is like combining a 2000km suspension bridge and an 80km tall tower, using dynamic support mechanisms. possible in principle, but a tough sell.
19:26 < docl> dynamic support = the motion of stuff inside is what keeps it up
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19:28 < docl> so launch loop holds a rotor moving at 14km/s, which is in excess of orbital velocity, and keeps the track levitated. since it could fail catastrophically, it would need to be built over the ocean. the craft electromagnetically repels from the (bidirectional) movement of the rotor below itself..
19:34 < docl> the orbital track or space runway is basically just a horizontal structure in LEO. craft couples on to it and coasts to orbit. eddy current braking is probably the best method for this.
19:39 < docl> ECB tends to work best with a tube that something passes through. so the track itself could be a tube, or it could pass through a tube (a small one attached to the craft).
20:01 < fenn> obviously the latter
20:02 < fenn> if you're in a tube you can't get out
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