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13:33 < kanzure> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa (but in israeli)
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20:29 < kanzure> "A rationally designed myoglobin exhibits a catalytic dehalogenation efficiency more than 1000-fold that of a native dehaloperoxidase" https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acscatal.8b02979
20:31 < kanzure> UART with photodiodes https://github.com/maqp/tfc
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20:33 < jrayhawk> https://www.replicationmarkets.com/index.php/2019/09/03/p-values-and-initial-prices/
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20:58 < jrayhawk> https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-an-elite-university-research-center-concealed-its-relationship-with-jeffrey-epstein joi ito going down
21:01 < kanzure> that's really not clear to me
21:01 < kanzure> seems to be more systemic and not necessarily joi's doing
21:01 < kanzure> oh he resigned
21:03 < kanzure> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20905905
21:03 < kanzure> "I'm confused by the blacklisted donor thing. The first questions I had when reading about it was "when did he end up on this list?", "why did he end up on it?, and "how big is this list?" It doesn't seem like any of the journalists even asked. That sounds like a very interesting story in and of itself.
21:04 < kanzure> oh, it's gmax
21:05 < jrayhawk> small world
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21:16 < kanzure> the comments about normalization are interesting
21:16 < kanzure> e.g. apparently some people believe that hanging out with criminals normalizes the criminal behavior, even if the criminal had been convicted and served his sentence (etc)
21:17 < kanzure> and others believe that an excon concealing evidence of wrongdoing is evidence that it is in fact not normalized
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21:28 < jrayhawk> it should maybe be framed not as "normalizing criminal behavior" but "disrupting anti-social changes to the state of shared knowledge or quorum-finding around the expected value of criminal hehavior"
21:29 < jrayhawk> suppressing opportunistic defectors can just as easily be done by controlling perception as by actually detecting them and implementing punishment
21:30 < kanzure> see pm
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21:32 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/1170546972366909440
21:32 < EmmyNoether> Imagine you had the ability to cool the planet by 2-3 degrees (for only a few billion US dollars). Large parts of the planet become more colonizable. Everything changes. Wouldn't this crash a lot of real estate markets that were based on their "exclusive" good weather? (@kanzure)
21:32 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/QuantumG/status/1170547884086812673
21:32 < EmmyNoether> @kanzure There's a Lex Luther plot line if I ever heard one. (@QuantumG, in reply to tw:1170546972366909440)
21:33 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/hodlwave/status/1170555166136983552
21:33 < EmmyNoether> @kanzure Fyi global warming will increase the amt of habitable land far more than a global cooling Also RE prices going down is a good thing (@hodlwave, in reply to tw:1170546972366909440)
21:45 < jrayhawk> yeah, the last thermal maximum saw a green sahara, which additionally means fewer hurricanes regularly destroying the caribbean and SE united states https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahara#Desertification_and_prehistoric_climate
21:50 < jrayhawk> and, obviously, along with the sahara, there's canada, greenland, and siberia, and general increases in photosynthesis efficiency
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21:56 < kanzure> huh..... just got a message from a bitcoiner who says that he originated the "mosquito line" rumor back in like 2007, or rather, he got it from al gore and then applied height/apartments to it.
22:01 < Hooloovo0> should be verifiable, right
22:02 < kanzure> right... uh..
22:02 < Hooloovo0> with b l o c k c h a i n
22:30 < jrayhawk> you know, with all those blockchains that existed in 2007
22:31 < fenn> "The University has said that it received eight hundred thousand dollars from Epstein’s foundations, in the course of twenty years"
22:31 < fenn> is it just me or is that not very much
22:32 < fenn> they probably have paid joi ito more than that over the course of his career at MIT, and now that investment is being wasted
22:35 < jrayhawk> part of the high compensation of public executive and directoral positions is due to their risk of being used as a scapegoating mechanism by boards of directors
22:35 < kanzure> it's also not much if it was small donations each time
22:36 < jrayhawk> an investment in insurance is only wasted if it doesn't pay out
22:36 < jrayhawk> joi ito paid out
22:36 < fenn> lol ok
22:37 < fenn> MIT media lab is in the clear now, surely :D
22:39 < Hooloovo0> 800k in 20 years? yeah not a lot
22:40 < Hooloovo0> also, sounds like it was supposed to be anonymous... so probably no one a the lab knew
22:40 < Hooloovo0> (right?)
22:40 < jrayhawk> the article goes into everyone at the lab knowing and being deeply concerned
22:42 < Hooloovo0> oh, what
22:42  * Hooloovo0 missed the article because it was more than a screen up
22:42 < Hooloovo0> having worked for academia recently... it's hard to get funding
22:45 < Hooloovo0> welp yeah, that's pretty fucked
22:46 < Hooloovo0> but seriously... the media lab? do they do anything?
22:47 < fenn> media lab is kind of a big deal
22:48 < Hooloovo0> hmm, yeah
22:48  * Hooloovo0 is used to thinking about lincoln lab and AI lab
22:48 < fenn> that's old news
22:57 < jrayhawk> http://web.media.mit.edu/~raskar/trillionfps/ is the only thing I can remember them doing that impressed me
22:58 < jrayhawk> OLPC seemed like an okay bunch of ideas, but their funding model invited microsoft to kill it off
23:03 < fenn> i remember being impressed with the international network of fab labs, but it seems to have plateaued
23:04 < fenn> there was a bunch of basic research on self assembly
23:05 < fenn> anyway, i doubt the media lab is the only recipient of epstein's affections
23:05 < fenn> just the only ones to get caught so far
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23:12 < jrayhawk> along with ben goertzel/humanity plus and marvin minsky and Martin Nowak/Harvard Evolutionary Dynamics and many others https://www.wbur.org/edify/2019/07/10/jeffrey-epstein-harvard-mit-donations
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23:13 < jrayhawk> though those stories do not appear to be quite as dramatic
23:17 < jrayhawk> https://www.fastcompany.com/90375335/jeffrey-epsteins-money-was-accepted-by-scientists-even-after-arrest and David Hanson of OpenCog
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23:29 < kanzure> "Assessing landscape potential for human sustainability and ‘attractiveness’ across Asian Russia in a warmer 21st century" https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ab10a8
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