--- Log opened Sat Sep 28 00:00:24 2019 02:37 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:22 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:04 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@73.61.8.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:19 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@73.61.8.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:49 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:09 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:00 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:36 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca84:b300:61a3:529c:ca5b:78a3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:36 -!- purpleshift [purpleshif@gateway/vpn/mullvad/purpleshift] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:23 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:802e:c8e1:46d2:7ffa] has quit [Quit: preview] 09:33 -!- lsneff [uid265665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyjbtyzzxjfofvtb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:43 -!- lsneff [uid265665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyjbtyzzxjfofvtb] has quit [Quit: Updating details, brb] 09:44 -!- lsneff [sid265665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oirxtpplpehetecr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:56 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:802e:c8e1:46d2:7ffa] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:04 -!- sachy [~sachy@91.146.121.5] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:06 -!- sachy [~sachy@91.146.121.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:31 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:802e:c8e1:46d2:7ffa] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:38 -!- chinarulezzz [~chinarule@gateway/tor-sasl/chinarulezzz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:53 -!- chinarulezzz [~chinarule@gateway/tor-sasl/chinarulezzz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:54 -!- chinarulezzz [~chinarule@gateway/tor-sasl/chinarulezzz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:01 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:02 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@172.58.136.224] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:02 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@172.58.136.224] has quit [Changing host] 11:02 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:05 -!- TC [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:05 -!- TC is now known as Guest46201 11:08 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:10 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:30 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:33 -!- chinarulezzz [~chinarule@gateway/tor-sasl/chinarulezzz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:34 -!- chinarulezzz [~chinarule@gateway/tor-sasl/chinarulezzz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:28 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:50 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:52 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:58 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:802e:c8e1:46d2:7ffa] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:15 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:22 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:30 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:802e:c8e1:46d2:7ffa] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:01 -!- chinarulezzz [~chinarule@gateway/tor-sasl/chinarulezzz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:36 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:55 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@172.58.136.224] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:55 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@172.58.136.224] has quit [Changing host] 14:55 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:55 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:23 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:24 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:59 -!- purpleshift [purpleshif@gateway/vpn/mullvad/purpleshift] has quit [Quit: .] 16:31 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:35 -!- N-time [~Mark@212.225.172.60] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:50 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:30 < fenn> .title http://youtu.be/sOpMrVnjYeY starting in 30 minutes 17:30 < EmmyNoether> Sorry, links cannot contain spaces 17:30 < fenn> .title http://youtu.be/sOpMrVnjYeY 17:30 < EmmyNoether> Starship Update - YouTube 17:36 < lsneff> Super excited for that 17:38 < fenn> while you wait: 17:38 < fenn> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aDOpyUmfL4 17:38 < EmmyNoether> Live! 24/7 SpaceX Boca Chica Complex - YouTube 17:44 < lsneff> The whole space exploration stuff in the past decade has been really great 17:44 < lsneff> but I'm mostly just disappointed that nothing has happened yet with atomically precise manufacturing 17:54 -!- TheHoliestRoger [~TheHolies@unaffiliated/theholiestroger] has quit [Quit: Find me in #TheHolyRoger or https://theholyroger.com] 17:55 -!- TheHoliestRoger [~TheHolies@unaffiliated/theholiestroger] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:11 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:19 -!- N-time [~Mark@212.225.172.60] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:27 < fenn> actually starting now 18:29 -!- helleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:30 -!- Guest46201 [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:49 < lsneff> he 18:49 < lsneff> he's such a bad speaker lol 18:55 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:14 < docl> great stuff about the virtues of steel 19:20 < nmz787> lsneff: what do you mean, ALD and ALE are all the rage these days, and ALD has been in industrial use for decads 20:10 < lsneff> nmz787: Sorry, should've been more clear. I was referring to drexler-style apm. Nanofactories and all that 20:14 < maaku> lsneff: actually drexler was always a proponent of DNA/protein based nanomachines for 1st, 2nd, 3rd generation nanofactories. stuff is progressing pretty fast on that front, although for other reasons 20:15 < maaku> lsneff: you working on anything related to that? i have a startup idea I'm back burnering for jumpstarting atomicly precise manufacturing 20:21 < lsneff> maaku: sort of 20:21 < lsneff> I'm working on cad software similar to nanoengineer, but able to support much larger structures 20:22 < lsneff> I'll probably show it off in a year or two 20:22 < lsneff> What's your idea? 20:23 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:802e:c8e1:46d2:7ffa] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:29 < maaku> lsneff: maybe we should collaborate. I'm also interested in doing a (VR-enabled) molecular cad software. VR is more than a gimmick though--I've seen firsthand that working with molecular machines is non-intuitive and requires immersive visualization if you want to quickly build visualization 20:30 < maaku> based on my experience supporting ribosome visualization for the georgia tech team of the NASA astrobiology institute, which found they were able to bring grad students up to speed on ribosome function in days instead of months using an immersive CAVE setup I miniaturized 20:33 < maaku> but anyway the idea is simpler: create an app-store like model for people to upload designs for molecular machines of many types, with standardized licensing models. and a financial model that lets people speculate on the future value of patents in order to jump start a funded ecosystem and create incentive for bootstrapping the first assembler 20:35 < maaku> (btw I'll be afk for a few days) 20:35 < maaku> *if you want to quickly build intuition 20:37 < lsneff> That's a fascinating idea! I had toyed with the idea of building a company out of it, but couldn't figure out why anyone would actually use it. 20:38 < lsneff> I'd be up for collaboration, but I'm in the middle of a semester right now, so I won't be able to do much for a couple of months. 20:38 < maaku> financial engineering is my gimmick these days. you just have to create a legal framework in which people stand to profit from bringing into existence the thing you want to exist... and then magically it will exist ;) 20:39 < maaku> yeah for sure. i'm busy too on my other projects (space and crypto). but I eventually want this nanotech thing to happen. 20:41 < lsneff> How would you prevent people from copying an existing design to get around a license? This seems most similar to software patents and licenses, which are fraught with violations and whatnot. 20:42 < maaku> you can't copy a design to get around a patent. a design is infringing even if you didn't know about the patent. maybe you're mixing up with copyrights? 20:43 < maaku> one of the nice things about digital matter though is that mechanism specification is exact and you can very easily show infringement or non-infringement of a design 20:44 < lsneff> Hmm, I suppose 20:45 < lsneff> So the platform would actually facilitate one creating a real, legal patent on the design? 20:52 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:802e:c8e1:46d2:7ffa] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:55 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:802e:c8e1:46d2:7ffa] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:12 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:802e:c8e1:46d2:7ffa] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:14 -!- Proteus [~Proteus@unaffiliated/proteus] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:07 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:19 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca84:b300:61a3:529c:ca5b:78a3] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Log closed Sun Sep 29 00:00:24 2019