--- Log opened Tue Nov 05 00:00:55 2019 00:04 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:16 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:21 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:50 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:53 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:56 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:07 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@58.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:07 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@58.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:05 < kanzure> https://foc.us/fnirs-sensor/ 04:12 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:59 < kanzure> "FtsK in motion reveals its mechanism for double-stranded DNA translocation" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/828319v1 06:01 < kanzure> "CreLite: An optogenetically controlled Cre/loxP system using red light" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/823971v1 06:01 < kanzure> "Here we present CreLite, an optogenetically-controlled Cre system using red light in developing zebrafish embryos. Cre activity is disabled by splitting Cre and fusing the inactive halves with the Arabidopsis thaliana red light-inducible binding partners, PhyB and PIF6. In addition, PhyB-PIF6 binding requires phycocyanobilin (PCB), providing an additional layer of control. Upon exposure to ... 06:01 < kanzure> ...red light (660 nm) illumination, the PhyB-CreC and PIF6-CreN fusion proteins come together in the presence of PCB to restore Cre activity. Red-light exposure of transgenic zebrafish embryos harboring a Cre-dependent multi-color fluorescent protein reporter (ubi:zebrabow) injected with CreLite mRNAs and PCB, resulted in Cre activity as measured by the generation of multi-spectral cell labeling ... 06:01 < kanzure> ...in various tissues, including heart, skeletal muscle and epithelium. We show that CreLite can be used for gene manipulations in whole embryos or small groups of cells at different stages of development. CreLite provides a novel optogenetic tool for precise temporal and spatial control of gene expression in zebrafish embryos that may also be useful in cell culture, ex vivo organ culture, and ... 06:01 < kanzure> ...other animal models for developmental biology studies." 06:02 < kanzure> heat-resistant proteins in drosophila and human that protect against protein instability and protein denaturation https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/816124v1 06:04 < kanzure> biorxiv is a little annoying to read because they only list 10 articles at a time. 06:04 < kanzure> probably because of morons complaining about "iNfOrMaTiOn OvErLoAd" 06:06 < kanzure> DNA breaks causing epigenetic anomalies and its contribution to mammalian aging (two articles?) https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/808659v1 https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/808642v1 06:07 < kanzure> "A CellAge epigenetic clock for expedited discovery of anti-ageing compounds in vitro" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/803676v1 06:12 < kanzure> it's too bad that technique is so manual (if it was purely based on a genetic circuit then you might be able to do mutational selection to get to a small molecule peptide or protein that stabilizes a genetic-based epigenetic clock in the presence of induced aging) 06:17 < kanzure> "Genes affecting vocal and facial anatomy went through extensive regulatory divergence in modern humans" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/106955v14 06:18 < kanzure> "... Specifically, we identify widespread hypermethylation in a network of face- and voice-affecting genes (SOX9, ACAN, COL2A1, NFIX and XYLT1). We propose that these repression patterns appeared after the split from Neanderthals and Denisovans, and that they might have played a key role in shaping the modern human face and vocal tract." 06:19 < kanzure> "Highly efficient and specific genome editing in human cells with paired CRISPR-Cas9 nickase ribonucleoproteins" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/766493v1 06:26 < kanzure> "Deep reinforcement learning for the control of microbial co-cultures in bioreactors" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/457366v2 06:28 < kanzure> "Genetic design automation for autonomous formation of multicellular shapes from a single cell progenitor" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/807107v1 06:28 < kanzure> ".. a computer-aided design approach for designing recombinase-based genetic circuits for controlling the formation of multi-cellular masses into arbitrary shapes in human cells." 06:30 < kanzure> or this one (using cell-cell signaling instead) https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/784496v1 06:32 < kanzure> "DNA writing at a single genomic site enables lineage tracing and analog recording in mammalian cells" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/639120v2 06:33 < kanzure> "... Our system, called CHYRON (Cell HistorY Recording by Ordered iNsertion), inserts random nucleotides at a single locus in temporal order in vivo and can be applied as an evolving lineage tracer as well as a recorder of user-selected cellular stimuli." 06:34 < kanzure> "let's encrypt our plasmids!!!11one" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/750927v1 06:40 < kanzure> "DNA punch cards: Encoding data on native DNA sequences via nicking" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/672394v5 06:42 < kanzure> using pfalog (pyrococcus furiosus argonaute) instead of spcas9n. this method looks rather slow for writing... 06:43 < kanzure> er, pfago rather 06:45 < kanzure> in vitro ribosome display stuff https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/692111v1 07:04 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:08 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:08 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:29 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:48 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:48 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca84:b300:7567:25f2:c084:f7c5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:48 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:52 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:03 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:42 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:45 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:01 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:01 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:01 < kanzure> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/project-silica/ 09:01 < kanzure> "A laser encodes data in glass by creating layers of three-dimensional nanoscale gratings and deformations at various depths and angles. Machine learning algorithms read the data back by decoding images and patterns that are created as polarized light shines through the glass." 09:05 < kanzure> why machine learning or computer vision magic? why not just specify an encoding.. 09:14 -!- sachy [~sachy@88.146.225.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:21 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:21 -!- purpleshift [purpleshif@gateway/vpn/mullvad/purpleshift] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:24 -!- Guest24004 [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:26 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:28 < lsneff> kanzure: maybe they can't be precise enough yet, so it needs some interpretation? 09:52 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:54 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:10 -!- CRM114 is now known as Urchin 10:29 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:48 < nmz787> kanzure: my guess is they are biologists and don't know exactly what they're talking about re: computer science tech 10:51 < nmz787> it isn't terribly interesting though, I think... I can't see how it's much better than the latest existing optical disc technology. 10:51 < nmz787> what is that anyway, multi-layer blu-ray? 10:51 < nmz787> I feel like I saw the next-gen sony playstation will hold 100GB per disc 11:29 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:32 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:34 < kanzure> nmz787: right.. although it would be neat if they have a way to cheaply mass produce femtosecond high-power lasers. 11:35 < kanzure> small-scale too 11:45 < nmz787> just bought an FPGA with some SDRAM on it, for trying out the PCI bus sniffer (https://www.fpga4fun.com/PCI3.html) on my FIB's image capture/scan generator card 11:45 < nmz787> $20 11:45 < nmz787> not too shabby, they even have some examples on github, along with datasheets of all the chips and pinouts 11:49 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21454273 11:49 < EmmyNoether> OpenAI Releases Largest GPT-2 Text Generation Model | Hacker News 11:49 -!- CRM114 is now known as Urchin 11:53 < kanzure> https://talktotransformer.com/ 11:53 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:55 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca84:b300:7567:25f2:c084:f7c5] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:56 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:57 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:58 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca84:b300:74e5:342f:9a8d:a72b] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:10 -!- CRM114 is now known as Urchin 12:34 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:54 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:54 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has quit [Changing host] 12:54 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:04 -!- sachy [~sachy@88.146.225.178] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:22 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:24 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:57 -!- urchin__ [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:01 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:10 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@58.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:32 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:15 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:18 -!- urchin__ [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:20 -!- crockwork_ [~crockwork@66.205.193.158] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:23 -!- crockwork [~crockwork@66.205.193.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:44 -!- HumanGeek [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:44 -!- HumanGeek [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45 -!- HumanGeek [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:47 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:42 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@58.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:11 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@58.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:13 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@58.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:36 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/circuit_logic/status/1186644783751544832 17:36 < EmmyNoether> Okay, here are my prime editing takes. I'm mostly going to try to be a voice of reason here. Not because I'm hyper critical of the paper but because it's necessary. This field is full of mega hype and cool tech, but cool doesn't get us anywhere unless it works as advertised. 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And they're not too fond of it. There's a saying: 'Borgs eat Borges. Borges eat Borges.' They'll get tired of eating their own." 21:20 -!- urchin__ [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:24 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:33 -!- urchin__ [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:41 < jrayhawk> i just wish we could make more victor borges 22:00 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca84:b300:74e5:342f:9a8d:a72b] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:18 < fenn> cheap mass produced femtosecond lasers would be a safety nightmare for regulators 22:18 < fenn> you don't have to just etch glass... 22:21 < fenn> it's stupid to compare project silica to DVDs and such when the explicit stated goal is long term data preservation 22:21 < fenn> which they seem to be accomplishing: "The team has baked, boiled, microwaved, demagnetized and scoured similar pieces of glass with steel wool -- with no loss to the data stored inside." 22:22 < fenn> .title https://news.microsoft.com/innovation-stories/ignite-project-silica-superman/ 22:22 < EmmyNoether> Project Silica proof of concept stores Warner Bros. 'Superman' movie on quartz glass 22:24 < fenn> 75.6 GB on a 7.5 cm x 7.5 cm x 2 mm piece of glass 22:33 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@2606-a000-4806-e500-7035-e75b-77fc-0bc8.inf6.spectrum.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:33 -!- l_wl is now known as luwl 22:39 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@58.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:56 -!- luwl [~l_wl@2606-a000-4806-e500-7035-e75b-77fc-0bc8.inf6.spectrum.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01 -!- lowl_ [~luwl@2606-a000-4806-e500-7035-e75b-77fc-0bc8.inf6.spectrum.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:14 -!- lowl_ [~luwl@2606-a000-4806-e500-7035-e75b-77fc-0bc8.inf6.spectrum.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:15 -!- lowl_ [~luwl@2606-a000-4806-e500-7035-e75b-77fc-0bc8.inf6.spectrum.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:15 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:17 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:20 -!- lowl_ [~luwl@2606-a000-4806-e500-7035-e75b-77fc-0bc8.inf6.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:20 -!- urchin__ [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:36 -!- CRM114 is now known as Urchin 23:47 -!- lowl_ [~luwl@2606-a000-4806-e500-7035-e75b-77fc-0bc8.inf6.spectrum.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:52 -!- lowl_ [~luwl@2606-a000-4806-e500-7035-e75b-77fc-0bc8.inf6.spectrum.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:52 -!- lowl_ [~luwl@2606-a000-4806-e500-7035-e75b-77fc-0bc8.inf6.spectrum.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:52 -!- crockwork [~crockwork@66.205.193.158] has quit [Quit: crockwork] 23:53 -!- crockwork [~crockwork@66.205.193.158] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Wed Nov 06 00:00:57 2019