--- Log opened Fri Nov 15 00:00:09 2019 00:22 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:26 -!- helleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:59 -!- lewlz [~lewlz@2606-a000-4806-e500-8048-e58e-bab7-0039.inf6.spectrum.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:14 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cwctifthyvrhphjd] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:16 < nmz787> lsneff: fenn: optane is phase-change... but I was told a few months ago there's actually two physical implementations and one is the "real" one... never looked into it more after that conversation, and it was at a conference, possibly at a bar with alcohol being consumed 01:18 < nmz787> I've been hearing some of the new memory subsystems will handle full DRAM encryption, likely the key will live in the subsystem, maybe somewhere else too, TPM??? 01:44 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:59 -!- GeDaMo [~GeDaMo@82-69-2-253.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:59 -!- GeDaMo [~GeDaMo@82-69-2-253.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [Changing host] 02:59 -!- GeDaMo [~GeDaMo@unaffiliated/gedamo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:19 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gglurmqcygagbfpe] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:38 -!- liead is now known as adlai 05:35 < kanzure> .wik the martians (scientists) 05:35 < EmmyNoether> "'The Martians' was a term used to refer to a group of prominent Hungarian scientists (mostly, but not exclusively, physicists and mathematicians) who emigrated to the United States in the early half of the 20th century. / Leo Szilard, who jokingly suggested that Hungary [...]" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Martians_(scientists) 05:38 < kanzure> http://www.fasori.hu/ 05:40 < kanzure> ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasori_Gimn%C3%A1zium ) 05:49 -!- lewlz [~lewlz@2606-a000-4806-e500-8048-e58e-bab7-0039.inf6.spectrum.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:04 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:09 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gglurmqcygagbfpe] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:15 -!- crockwork [~crockwork@66.205.193.158] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:25 -!- MarkOtaris [mark-otari@wikimedia/Mark-Otaris] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:37 -!- alfpogz [~sweaver@pool-100-11-26-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:59 -!- kun0[m] [kun0matrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-kqzhuqgjkjzyeuse] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:02 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:46 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca84:b300:2486:772f:4f49:9efa] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:32 < fenn> related: https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/26/the-atomic-bomb-considered-as-hungarian-high-school-science-fair-project/ 08:57 -!- lewlz [~lewlz@2606-a000-4806-e500-79f5-9fc3-c738-f78a.inf6.spectrum.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:00 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:05 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:10 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:23 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-binoeqgyyxnvigte] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:24 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:29 < kanzure> .ttile https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21546239 09:29 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21546239 09:29 < EmmyNoether> Ex-FDA Advisor Says of Lasik Eye Surgery: 'It Should Have Never Been Approved' | Hacker News 09:29 < kanzure> "If the FDA guy concludes from this that the procedure should never have been approved, I'm tempted to say that this reveals more about the risk-averseness of the FDA than about the dangers of the procedure..." 09:37 < GeDaMo> I had Lasik ten years ago, I've had no problems 10:43 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:00 -!- balrog [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:04 -!- balrog [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:15 < lsneff> kanzure: do you feel that the fda is too risk-adverse in general? 11:16 -!- _0bitcount [~Big_Byte@90.162.105.206] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:17 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@58.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:19 < kanzure> lsneff: of course https://diyhpl.us/wiki/fda 11:20 < kanzure> can't do much without their consent. apps, wheelchairs, gene therapies, ... 11:22 < lsneff> Interesting 11:24 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:26 < fenn> ... dogs ... 11:27 < kanzure> oh yeah 11:27 < kanzure> what about those glofish? 11:27 < kanzure> and lasik 11:27 < kanzure> why the hell can't i shine laser beams into people's eyeballs without regulators breathing down my delicate neck? 11:28 < fenn> *onto 11:28 < kanzure> not the way i do it 11:28 < fenn> lasik is pretty amazing. way too awesome to actually exist and be available 11:29 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-binoeqgyyxnvigte] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 11:29 < kanzure> somehow fertility clinics escaped regulation 11:43 < kanzure> well, not completely 11:45 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:46 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:15 < kanzure> .title https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.01547 12:16 < EmmyNoether> [1911.01547] The Measure of Intelligence 12:20 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:39 < lsneff> .title https://m.phys.org/news/2019-11-chemists-artificial-molecular-self-assembly-pathway.html 12:40 < EmmyNoether> Chemists map an artificial molecular self-assembly pathway with complexities of life 12:49 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:51 < kanzure> .title https://blog.floydhub.com/knowledge-distillation/ 12:51 < EmmyNoether> Distilling knowledge from Neural Networks to build smaller and faster models 12:52 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:53 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:02 -!- justanotheruser [justanothe@gateway/vpn/nordvpn/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:03 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:08 -!- justanotheruser [justanothe@gateway/vpn/nordvpn/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:32 < Dr-G> view your 30+ Trait reports now 13:32 < kanzure> no 13:32 < Dr-G> are you afraid 13:32 < kanzure> spam 13:33 < Dr-G> the combination of your genetics and other factors make you unlikely to experience hair loss or thinning before age 40. 13:34 < Dr-G> based on your genetics, you have slightly lower than average odds of hating the sound of others chewing. 13:35 < Dr-G> the combination of your genetics and other factors makes you unlikely to have a unibrow. 13:35 -!- GeDaMo [~GeDaMo@unaffiliated/gedamo] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:37 < fenn> lmao does it also say whether you're genetically predisposed to washing your underwear less, leaving cheetos on the couch, yelling at the television 13:40 < jrayhawk> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db-PC_NWLN8 13:40 < EmmyNoether> Tommy Wood - Lies, Damn Lies, and Genetics - AHS19 - YouTube 13:49 < jrayhawk> (summary: most genetics papers use risk/odds ratio because expressing the difference in bimodality in terms of standard deviation would make their results look meaningless) 13:57 -!- helleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:58 < jrayhawk> (or, rather, would make the irrelevance of their results more obvious) 14:00 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:07 -!- alfpogz [~sweaver@pool-100-11-26-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:21 -!- TMA [tma@twin.jikos.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:35 -!- TMA [tma@twin.jikos.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:36 -!- lewlz [~lewlz@2606-a000-4806-e500-79f5-9fc3-c738-f78a.inf6.spectrum.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:36 -!- lewlz [~lewlz@2606-a000-4806-e500-79f5-9fc3-c738-f78a.inf6.spectrum.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:39 -!- lewlz [~lewlz@2606-a000-4806-e500-79f5-9fc3-c738-f78a.inf6.spectrum.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:40 -!- TMA [tma@twin.jikos.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:51 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:52 -!- TMA [tma@twin.jikos.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:55 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:56 -!- alfpogz [~sweaver@pool-100-11-26-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:59 < lsneff> .title https://www.space.com/42373-spacesuit-designs-dava-newman.html 14:59 < EmmyNoether> Future Spacesuits Should Be Beautiful -- and Not Just for Space. Here's Why. | Space 15:24 < Dr-G> business attire is one of the dumbest things in history 15:44 -!- alfpogz [~sweaver@pool-100-11-26-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:53 -!- alfpogz [~sweaver@pool-100-11-26-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:54 -!- _0bitcount [~Big_Byte@90.162.105.206] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:03 < lsneff> That is true 16:03 < lsneff> Through I do like how business casual looks if the person can pull it off 16:07 < Dr-G> zero functionality 16:08 < Dr-G> people in hot countries just sweating their ass off for no reason 16:09 < kanzure> why are you here 16:10 < Dr-G> what do you mean 16:11 < kanzure> get out 16:11 < kanzure> why are you in here? 16:11 < Dr-G> to rant about business attire obviously 16:14 < Dr-G> why are you so triggered kanzure you got your babies yet 16:15 < kanzure> no i'm just about to ban you unless you justify your existence 16:17 < Dr-G> oh look another fat internet janitor who dreams about shit and gets nothing done lmao 16:17 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 16:17 < kanzure> do you have any redeeming qualities at all 16:34 < fenn> this is a guy who thought that methane fueled rockets contribute to global warming because methane is a greenhouse gas 16:34 < fenn> he couldn't understand that the rocket burned the methane 16:35 < jrayhawk> it's poetic when people decide to hurt somebody they don't know and nakedly resort to the typical minds fallacy to try to maximize damage 16:45 < alfpogz> is there any literature regarding possible assortative mating projections **if** companies like genomic prediction were to become mainstream? I have a very simplistic view of everyone would just become ken and barbie dolls like we see in Gattaca or early episodes of the Twilight Zone. 16:51 < kanzure> that's similar to "why wouldn't we just keep cloning the same person over and over again instead of taking a risk on new genetic constructs?" 16:51 < kanzure> i think that you'll find it very difficult to get people to stop trying new things, or breeding outside of the context of genomic prediction 16:57 -!- alfpogz [~sweaver@pool-100-11-26-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:15 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@58.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:27 < kanzure> https://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/cray-1-nersc-disassembled.jpg 18:31 -!- crockwork [~crockwork@66.205.193.158] has quit [Quit: crockwork] 18:33 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:02 -!- not_you [~whaun@185.153.179.27] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:17 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:38 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:53 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:03 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:21 -!- not_you [~whaun@185.153.179.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:22 -!- not_you [~whaun@184.71.18.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:53 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:17 -!- not_you [~whaun@184.71.18.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:18 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:20 -!- not_you [~whaun@184.71.18.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:22 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:26 -!- helleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:39 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca84:b300:2486:772f:4f49:9efa] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:10 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:11 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] --- Log closed Sat Nov 16 00:00:09 2019