--- Log opened Thu Nov 28 00:00:21 2019 00:01 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:23 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:33 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:13 -!- CryptoDavid_ [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gcksjszmqkrjvmvx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:21 -!- CryptoDavid_ [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gcksjszmqkrjvmvx] has quit [] 01:22 -!- CryptoDavid_ [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-upksqegtlvxskqfk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:25 -!- CryptoDavid_ [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-upksqegtlvxskqfk] has quit [Client Quit] 01:26 -!- CryptoDavid_ [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iqycasdnqhraebdz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:32 -!- CryptoDavid_ [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iqycasdnqhraebdz] has quit [] 01:33 -!- CryptoDavid_ [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hqghmaeagouixnhu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:46 -!- xeb__ is now known as xeb 01:48 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:06 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:07 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:07 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:11 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:30 < maaku> abetusk: I'd have to look it up. I think I paid closer to $500 (back when that was a discount sale of of $1k). this was a year or two ago 02:38 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:38 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:47 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:01 -!- CryptoDavid_ [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hqghmaeagouixnhu] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 04:21 -!- xeb [~xeb@host86-158-3-48.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:04 -!- jtimon [~quassel@22.133.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:15 -!- MarkOtaris [mark-otari@wikimedia/Mark-Otaris] has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 05:15 -!- kun0[m] [kun0matrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-twwjinwszevjqaxc] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:28 -!- MarkOtaris [mark-otari@wikimedia/Mark-Otaris] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:34 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:45 -!- MarkOtaris [mark-otari@wikimedia/Mark-Otaris] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:48 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:51 -!- MarkOtaris [mark-otari@wikimedia/Mark-Otaris] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:00 -!- MarkOtaris [mark-otari@wikimedia/Mark-Otaris] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:06 -!- MarkOtaris [mark-otari@wikimedia/Mark-Otaris] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:40 -!- kun0[m] [kun0matrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-itzwbzrbyoqfkeai] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:03 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:50 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:52 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:28 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca84:b300:9443:85f7:1215:cd61] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:28 < Jenda`_> huh https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/11/great-american-eye-exam-scam/602482/ 09:28 < Jenda`_> do I understand it correctly that in the U.S., you cannot enter strength+cylinder+PD into a website like https://www.optiscont.cz/dioptricke-bryle-dawn.html?b=f2, pay $20 and have glasses delivered in a week?! 09:30 < Jenda`_> how can this be even illegal? the person who will cut the lenses and fit them to frames will be prosecuted with something like medical practice without a license? 09:31 < Jenda`_> not to mention that in .cz you can buy over-the-counter contact lenses from a hardware store right next to keyboards and phones 09:31 < Jenda`_> https://www.alza.cz/search.htm?exps=kontaktn%C3%AD%20%C4%8Do%C4%8Dky 09:40 < Jenda`_> 3 09:56 -!- HumanGeek [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:57 -!- HumanGeek [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:58 -!- HumanGeek [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:59 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:28 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:50 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:55 < kanzure> Jenda`_: yeah it's messed up. 11:13 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:14 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:14 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:35 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:05 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:23 < kanzure> https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/op-ed:-want-to-learn-about-bitcoin-try-contributing-a-transcript-2019-11-26 13:28 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:31 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:24 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:28 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:56 -!- LeoTal1 [~Adium@210.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:19 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:28 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:37 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:27 < fenn> yes jenda, they also add fluoride to the water 16:28 < fenn> "it's for your own good" 16:29 < fenn> i know people who go without glasses because they can't afford eye exams (or at least think they can't, or can't be bothered) 16:30 < fenn> also you must get a new exam every year if you want to wear contacts, because they artificially limit the amount of contact lenses you can order at one time 16:32 < fenn> to less than or equal to one year's worth of contacts 16:39 -!- FungiFox [~FungiFox@24-121-195-201.flagcmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:53 -!- FungiFox [~FungiFox@24-121-195-201.flagcmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:49 -!- N-time [~Mark@212.225.172.60] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:11 < Jenda`_> btw. we have something similar with "chemicals" (for example, you cannot get vitamin D in reasonable strengths/form or desloratadine (interestingly, you can get OTC loratadine, which is a racemic mixture and therefore potentially more dangerous)), but sale of "medical hardware" is totally unrestricted 19:14 < Jenda`_> oh, I'm wrong about the izomer, it's precursor/metabolite, but anyway 19:20 < fenn> what's the rationale for restricting vitamin D? it's been shown to be safe in ludicrous amounts 19:31 -!- N-time [~Mark@212.225.172.60] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:33 -!- N-time [~Mark@212.225.172.60] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:51 < Jenda`_> No idea. I wanted to ask a politician about this for a long time, so finally I have sent it to the Czech Pirate Party (second-strongest party here) :) 19:51 < Jenda`_> https://forum.pirati.cz/viewtopic.php?f=549&t=50019 (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.pirati.cz%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D549%26t%3D50019) 20:05 -!- N-time [~Mark@212.225.172.60] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:32 -!- jtimon [~quassel@22.133.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:37 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:56 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:21 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@76.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:23 -!- LeoTal1 [~Adium@111.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:26 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@76.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:37 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer] 21:38 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:38 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:57 -!- FungiFox [~FungiFox@24-121-195-201.flagcmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:03 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:05 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:09 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca84:b300:9443:85f7:1215:cd61] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:14 -!- FungiFox [~FungiFox@24-121-195-201.flagcmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:20 -!- mrdata_ is now known as mrdata 23:01 -!- LeoTal1 [~Adium@111.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:15 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Fri Nov 29 00:00:22 2019