--- Log opened Sun Dec 01 00:00:24 2019 00:30 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:34 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@186.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:40 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:53 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@186.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:54 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@186.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:36 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-okqskmrgjosgyuob] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:41 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:46 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:06 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:07 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:10 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:50 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:16 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:21 -!- juri__ [~juri@79.140.115.124] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:25 -!- juri_ [~juri@178.63.35.222] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:32 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:33 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:01 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:14 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:21 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:22 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:22 < kanzure> https://www.reddit.com/r/seedboxes/comments/e3yl23/charitable_seeding_update_10_terabytes_and_900000/ 05:22 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:22 < kanzure> https://discord.gg/the-eye 05:23 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:24 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:26 -!- N-time [~Mark@212.225.172.60] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:26 -!- N-time [~Mark@212.225.172.60] has quit [Client Quit] 05:29 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/Sci_Hub/status/1169690904506093568 05:29 < EmmyNoether> Today is 5 September and Sci-Hub is 8 years old. In eight years, the website grew from zero to 76,000,000 research articles available for free reading, and from 2,000 users per day to 400,000. (@Sci_Hub) 05:30 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:35 < kanzure> https://the-eye.eu/ 05:36 < kanzure> https://the-eye.eu/public/Papers/nature.com/ 05:52 -!- N-time [~Mark@212.225.172.60] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:52 < N-time> join #malaga 06:00 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:00 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has quit [Changing host] 06:00 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:16 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-okqskmrgjosgyuob] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:24 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-obeikdjhbzjedvik] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:24 < kanzure> nah 06:51 -!- freemint [~freemint@2001:638:904:ffe8:5579:9a60:54bd:c5b2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:15 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:31 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:03 -!- CryptoDavid_ [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xqifhmyqoiukfkvt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:04 -!- CryptoDavid_ [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xqifhmyqoiukfkvt] has quit [Client Quit] 08:11 -!- purpleshift [purpleshif@gateway/vpn/mullvad/purpleshift] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:24 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:36 -!- CryptoDavid_ [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlgnonmnouzbsebq] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:37 -!- CryptoDavid_ [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlgnonmnouzbsebq] has quit [Client Quit] 08:38 -!- CryptoDavid_ [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-njycymrmisnayrso] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:43 -!- CryptoDavid_ is now known as CryptoDavid 08:59 -!- freemint [~freemint@2001:638:904:ffe8:5579:9a60:54bd:c5b2] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:11 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: yorick, Livestradamus, kanzure, mrdata, berndj, traumschule, EnabrinTain 09:12 -!- Netsplit over, joins: berndj, Livestradamus, kanzure, yorick, mrdata, traumschule, EnabrinTain 09:16 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-obeikdjhbzjedvik] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:29 -!- freemint [~freemint@2001:638:904:ffe8:5579:9a60:54bd:c5b2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:51 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:58 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:33 -!- freemint [~freemint@2001:638:904:ffe8:5579:9a60:54bd:c5b2] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:44 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:49 -!- N-time [~Mark@212.225.172.60] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:56 -!- freemint [~freemint@2001:638:904:ffe8:5579:9a60:54bd:c5b2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:19 -!- sachy [~sachy@88.146.225.178] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:25 < lsneff> kanzure: do you think immortagens will be available in your lifetime? 12:28 -!- freemint [~freemint@2001:638:904:ffe8:5579:9a60:54bd:c5b2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:28 -!- freemint [~freemint@2001:638:904:ffe8:5579:9a60:54bd:c5b2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:30 -!- sachy [~sachy@88.146.225.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:42 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:51 -!- freemint [~freemint@2001:638:904:ffe8:5579:9a60:54bd:c5b2] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:54 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:54 -!- abetusk is now known as Guest88863 13:16 < kanzure> much more likely to be available for the unborn than the living 13:17 < kanzure> didn't know that church's book had a name conflict https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReGenesis 13:17 < kanzure> or this one https://www.amazon.com/Regenesis-Alliance-Union-Universe-Book-2-ebook/dp/B00YBAUBQI 13:20 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-94-112-181-24.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:27 < lsneff> Sad to hear 13:27 < lsneff> But likely true 13:36 -!- freemint [~freemint@2001:638:904:ffe8:5579:9a60:54bd:c5b2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:37 < kanzure> that's the advantage of germline modification. 13:37 < kanzure> and why only the mice seem to be the primary beneficiaries of scientific research 13:58 < kanzure> i didn't know azonenberg hanged out in ##chemistry 13:58 < kanzure> darsie: or you 13:58 < darsie> . 13:59 < darsie> I do since ages. 13:59 < kanzure> okay 14:53 -!- freemint [~freemint@2001:638:904:ffe8:5579:9a60:54bd:c5b2] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:54 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:55 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@186.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:58 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-94-112-181-24.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:13 -!- Guest88863 is now known as abetusk 15:18 -!- N-time [~Mark@212.225.172.60] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:28 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:29 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:34 < juri_> Welp. I now have my own graphical frontend.. for my own 3d modeler.. which spits out models in a format my own slicer understands... which can talk to my own gcode interpreter... 15:34 < juri_> now too bad every piece of my toolchain is barely held together with wet toilet paper. 15:40 < juri_> nothing actually works well enough for it to be a toolchain. progress, of a sort? 15:40 * juri_ goes back to coding. 15:42 -!- purpleshift [purpleshif@gateway/vpn/mullvad/purpleshift] has quit [Quit: .] 16:11 < lsneff> Once alife takes off, however long from now that'll be, I imagine that the population of simulated minds will quickly overtake the number of bio minds. 16:19 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:11 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:50 < kanzure> lsneff: unlikely. computational minds are going to be extremely expensive. 17:50 < kanzure> or at least, learning is the most expensive component (the other stuff is significantly more cheap) 17:51 < lsneff> You really think so? 17:52 < lsneff> I can't imagine that a few kg of a computronium will cost much once nanofabricators exist 17:53 < kanzure> that...might be quite a while. 17:53 < kanzure> given modern costs of computation, human brain biomatter is many orders of magnitude cheaper for implementing minds 17:57 < lsneff> Good point, that could be significantly further away than brain simulation 18:20 < kanzure> lsneff: https://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/brain-emulation/ 18:20 < kanzure> and https://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/ai/ 18:27 -!- juri_ [~juri@178.63.35.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:27 -!- juri_ [~juri@178.63.35.222] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:45 -!- truth [17f3a6b1@cpe-23-243-166-177.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:49 -!- truth [17f3a6b1@cpe-23-243-166-177.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:49 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:51 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:11 -!- N-time [~Mark@212.225.172.60] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:47 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:59 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:00 -!- abetusk is now known as Guest75266 20:14 -!- freemint [~freemint@2001:638:904:ffe8:5579:9a60:54bd:c5b2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:48 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-njycymrmisnayrso] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:17 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@186.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:28 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:40 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:54 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:54 < fenn> brains are also a very energy efficient way of simulating brains 21:54 < fenn> also high fidelity :\ 21:54 < fenn> < 25 watts 22:00 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-proubmlzldbvbbxm] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:04 -!- freemint [~freemint@2001:638:904:ffe8:5579:9a60:54bd:c5b2] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:39 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@186.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:41 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@186.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:46 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:55 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@186.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:00 -!- Codaraxis_ [~Codaraxis@141.98.255.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:03 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:05 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-175-208.oc.oc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:45 < nmz787> juri_: are you still using that haskell based CAD? 23:46 < nmz787> juri_: was that implicitcad? 23:49 < nmz787> nsh: "batteries not included"... which I think is a pretty hard piece of the puzzle (at least where to stash them all, for any amount of range) 23:54 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Mon Dec 02 00:00:25 2019