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[~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:27 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:28 -!- zsdsdf [~zsdsdf@190.195.124.100] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:28 -!- zsdsdf [~zsdsdf@190.195.124.100] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 07:30 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:29 < lsneff> hmph 09:08 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:28 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:39 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:56 < kanzure> https://almanack.substack.com/p/naval-ravikant-and-kapil-gupta-on 09:56 < kanzure> "Exactly. When we get to morality for example, one of the things that Silicon Valley likes to talk a lot about is 10x engineers. Now it's broadened a little bit to be a bit more politically correct - 10x performers. But it is true that you can have individuals especially when they are leveraged through code or capital like hedge-fund managers or engineers or even on the sales side where ... 09:56 < kanzure> ...someone can literally accomplish 10x what the next closest person in the organization can. And the easiest way to see this is as founders. One founder can build a company 1000 times more valuable than the next founder." 09:56 < kanzure> "So there's this idea of 10x performers and obviously it can't be through hard work because they're not doing 10x of the work, that's impossible for anyone. So everybody wants to hire them but then we go around paying them 1x - 1.2x because society doesn't wanna hear this idea that you can actually pay a 10x performer 10x. So what happens is 10x performers all end up leaving and ... 09:56 < kanzure> ...starting their own companies. Because they're not getting paid 10x otherwise so that's the only way to do it." 09:56 < kanzure> "So we have a few socially acceptable areas where you can get paid 10x. Basically if someone else is not making that decision, if you made it by yourself or for yourself then you get to be a 10x performer. But I think that one of the things that's utterly broken in the startup ecosystem is that we all know and acknowledge that 10x performers or higher 100x, 1000x exist, especially within ... 09:56 < kanzure> ...certain circumstances and situations yet we do not compensate them at those levels because it is socially unacceptable to do so. That one's worth covering in another discussion but its an example of how real truth is hard to speak because it offends people it hurts your sensibilities about equality, it hurts your sensibilities about how the world ought to work, it hurts your sensibility ... 09:57 < kanzure> ...about morality." 10:50 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-94-112-181-24.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:06 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:25 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:27 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jrkmohkjnbepbacw] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:57 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:05 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:08 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:10 -!- justan0theruser [justanothe@gateway/vpn/nordvpn/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:16 -!- justan0theruser [justanothe@gateway/vpn/nordvpn/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:16 < juri_> or, '10x performers' go find a position that they want, instead of working just for capital. I'll sign on for a cause, but i recently passed up an offer for 2X what i'm currently paid. 12:28 < kanzure> "Metagenomic analysis of a blood stain from the French revolutionary Jean-Paul Marat (1743-1793)" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/825034v1 12:34 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:06 < docl> I've decided to be pro-Yang because UBI will make unattractive jobs impossible to fill cheaply and thereby hasten their automation 13:57 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jrkmohkjnbepbacw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 14:01 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-94-112-181-24.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:07 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-retwzpoqgificbzm] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:09 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@210.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:12 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: bye bye] 15:20 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:23 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:31 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:33 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:54 -!- EmmyNoether [~EmmyNoeth@oasys.ch0wn.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:27 < lsneff> I was pro-yang, but I've decided that he has no chance of being the nominee unfortunately. 17:42 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:43 < kanzure> no politics 17:50 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:54 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:56 < lsneff> alright 17:58 < lsneff> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_energy_teleportation 18:00 < lsneff> Apparently, it's possible to transmit energy through entangled regions of space. 18:00 < lsneff> Interesting stuff 18:11 < docl> lsneff: how would you know at this point? Iowa is 3 months away, and Yang is 5th or 6th 18:14 < maaku> docl: take it somewhere else 18:17 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-retwzpoqgificbzm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:23 < lsneff> docl: If you'd like to discuss further, pm me. 18:23 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:29 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:58 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:11 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:12 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Client Quit] 19:15 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:29 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:36 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:58 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:59 -!- ebowden__ [~ebowden@46.165.252.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:00 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:03 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:04 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:16 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:34 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:41 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:45 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 21:47 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:20 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:39 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@208.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:00 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:34 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:35 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:41 -!- mrdata_ is now known as mrdata 23:59 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Thu Dec 05 00:00:28 2019