--- Log opened Mon Dec 09 00:00:31 2019 00:21 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:06 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-23-46.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:21 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@31.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:22 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@31.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:35 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-23-46.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:16 -!- MarkOtaris [mark-otari@wikimedia/Mark-Otaris] has quit [Quit: killed] 03:19 -!- MarkOtaris [mark-otari@wikimedia/Mark-Otaris] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:37 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:44 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-23-46.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:03 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:22 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:23 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:24 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:26 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:18 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-23-46.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:54 < kanzure> hmph 06:54 < kanzure> we should just ban the WADA anti-doping people from existing 07:06 < jrayhawk> .title https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4293361/ 07:06 < EmmyNoether> An Experiment with Forced Oxygenation of the Deepwater of the Anoxic By Fjord, Western Sweden 07:09 < kanzure> https://blog.lopp.net/metal-bitcoin-seed-storage-stress-test-round-iii/ 07:17 < kanzure> https://blog.kraken.com/post/3195/inside-kraken-security-labs-crypto-domain-hijacking/ 07:36 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:09 < kanzure> .wik grigory rodchenkov 08:10 < EmmyNoether> "Grigory Mikhailovich Rodchenkov (Russian: ???????? ?????????? ?????????; born 24 October 1958) is the former head of Russia's national anti-doping laboratory, the Anti-Doping Center, which was suspended by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) in [...]" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigory_Rodchenkov 08:27 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-23-46.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:38 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:39 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:39 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:00 < lsneff> .title https://www.wired.com/story/facebooks-ai-says-field-hit-wall/ 09:00 < EmmyNoether> Facebook's Head of AI Says the Field Will Soon 'Hit the Wall' | WIRED 09:06 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-23-46.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:08 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:08 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:51 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:23 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:28 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-175-208.oc.oc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:51 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:51 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:01 -!- N-time [~Mark@212.225.172.60] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:19 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:19 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:58 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:18 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-czjqfgeqxnigswnp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:48 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:14 < kanzure> these guys need to get over anti-doping 16:18 -!- N-time [~Mark@212.225.172.60] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:24 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZY-syOmqNQ&t=40s 16:24 < EmmyNoether> World Anti-Doping Agency - Level the Playing Field - YouTube 16:25 < kanzure> "after all, sports is all about equality" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsTYYGELvFc 16:25 < kanzure> ahahaha these guys are serious 16:26 < kanzure> yeah, wouldn't want all these druggos winning your sports huh 16:28 < kanzure> we need a performance enhancing drug agency (PEDA) not an anti-doping agency (WADA) 16:42 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@31.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:42 -!- QuadIgni [~FourFire@125.51-175-114.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:45 < kanzure> .wik mclaren report 16:45 < kanzure> apparently there was a file dump associated with this 16:45 < EmmyNoether> "The McLaren Report (Russian: ?????? ?????????) is the name given to an independent report released in two parts by professor Richard McLaren into allegations and evidence of state-sponsored doping in Russia." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mclaren_report 16:46 < kanzure> https://www.wada-ama.org/en/resources/doping-control-process/mclaren-independent-investigation-report-part-i 16:46 < kanzure> https://www.wada-ama.org/en/resources/doping-control-process/mclaren-independent-investigation-report-part-ii 17:10 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:10 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:39 < lsneff> Has anyone investigated 3d printing in multiple directions in microgravity? 18:39 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@125.51-175-114.customer.lyse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:39 < lsneff> Like multiple extruders printing from different orientations at the same time in mid air 20:02 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@31.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:16 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:26 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:28 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-czjqfgeqxnigswnp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:16 < maaku> lsneff: the hype cycle of AI is likely to enter another crash phase. But I think there's plenty of room for technical advances. 21:16 < maaku> But maybe I'm suffering from the optimism bias. 21:23 < lsneff> I agree with that, much further to go in both algorithmic and computational power advances I think 21:24 < lsneff> A lot of modern "ai" is more just pattern recognition, modeling something that's modeled after visual cortex structure 21:24 < lsneff> More complex neuron models are needed, imo 21:45 < maaku> A bit like how we're in a crash cycle of the block chain hype, but bitcoin innovation is proceeding faster than ever 21:46 < maaku> There's a lot of cool innovation coming out of Deep Mind. Their replication of the Atari player using symbolic learning is an under appreciated Pretty Big Deal imho. 21:46 < maaku> Combine that with MIRI's functional decision theory and you're a good way towards AGI. 21:48 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:25 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:56 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:57 < lsneff> maaku: Do you have a link to the deepmind atari? 23:16 < lsneff> nvm, found it. Been looking at deepmind's website, and honestly, the research is more impressive than I thought it was --- Log closed Tue Dec 10 00:00:32 2019