--- Log opened Tue Dec 17 00:00:39 2019
01:01 -!- LeoTal1 [~Adium@179.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:03 -!- balrog_ [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:04 -!- dustinm- [~dustinm@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:04 -!- maaku_ [~quassel@ec2-54-186-10-232.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:05 -!- juri__ [~juri@178.63.35.222] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:06 -!- andytosh1 [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:06 -!- pasky_ [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:06 -!- ptrcmd_ [~peter@unaffiliated/petercommand] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:09 -!- streety_ [~streety@li761-24.members.linode.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:09 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
01:10 -!- namespace_ [user@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe7b:227f] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:10 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: maaku, LeoTal, andytoshi, Madars, abetusk, ptrcmd, balrog
01:11 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: juri_, streety, pasky, namespace, HEx1, dustinm
01:11 -!- balrog_ is now known as balrog
01:12 -!- andytosh1 [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
01:17 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:17 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:17 -!- juri__ is now known as juri_
01:17 -!- abetusk is now known as Guest12971
01:18 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:18 -!- Guest12971 is now known as abetusk
01:22 -!- FriendComputer [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:26 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
02:29 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap
02:51 < archels> > Continuing any further rodent work in the context of the HBP is not justified
02:51 < archels> wow, why not? we can't get to understanding human brains by looking at rodent brains?
02:52 < archels> (HBP = Human Brain Project)
02:52 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
02:52 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap
04:12 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181182.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap
04:55 -!- sachy [~sachy@91.146.121.5] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
05:02 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap
05:10 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-23-46.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap
05:12 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
06:00 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap
06:04 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
06:26 < juri_> kanzure: I'm still here. :D
06:34 -!- namespace_ is now known as namespace
07:08 -!- superkuh_ [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap
07:18 -!- superkuh_ [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer]
07:21 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181182.unknown.vectranet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:19 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
08:19 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has quit [Changing host]
08:19 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has joined ##hplusroadmap
08:24 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap
08:54 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.6]
08:58 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap
09:13 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
09:33 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@104.129.204.109] has joined ##hplusroadmap
09:38 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@104.129.204.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
10:02 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
10:02 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has quit [Changing host]
10:02 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has joined ##hplusroadmap
10:03 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@104.129.205.18] has joined ##hplusroadmap
10:16 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has joined ##hplusroadmap
10:28 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@104.129.205.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
10:43 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@104.129.204.131] has joined ##hplusroadmap
10:56 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@104.129.204.131] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
10:57 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap
11:04 -!- darsie is now known as undead
11:20 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
11:37 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/StorkDevon/status/1196239121389371393
11:37 < EmmyNoether> Here are my abridged notes for #GPWRITE2019. Currently it contains notes from the 36/63 talks I've been able to get permissions for, as more people reply to me I'll add more. Thanks @JefBoeke @SynGenome for a great conference, I learned a ton. Enjoy! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f8GQ4Tu29ayHetMaL9FbWX2FgFiuETmH_Y_ccFUeZE0/edit?usp=sharing (@StorkDevon)
11:50 < kanzure> https://github.com/NTumbleBit/NTumbleBit/blob/master/NTumbleBit/EscrowScriptBuilder.cs
12:00 < phase> cool
12:11 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-32-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
12:14 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-32-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
12:19 < phase> it's coffee and phenibut TUESDAY!
13:02 < kanzure> "Stephen Hawking's warning is ominous, "Once such superhumans appear, there are going to be significant political problems with the unimproved humans, who won't be able to compete. Presumably, they will die out, or become unimportant. Instead, there will be a race of self-designing beings who are improving themselves at an ever-increasing rate.""
13:02 < kanzure> that's... already the case for a bunch of people that don't compete.
13:05 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/CarolynRChapman/status/1207035988574449665
13:05 < EmmyNoether> @kanzure @geochurch Are you pursuing genetic enhancement of humans (outside of the US)? (@CarolynRChapman, in reply to tw:1207034826076950528)
13:19 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181182.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap
13:51 < phase> reminds me of eugenics after ww2
13:52 < phase> i have relatives that did that.. namely my grandparents
13:54 < phase> they made sets of children designed to be (a)high iq and (b) tall, muscular, and physically fit
13:55 < phase> my dad was of the (a) type... most of his brothers and sisters were of the (b) type... and almost all joined one of the armed forces.
13:57 < fenn> sure they did
13:57  * fenn smiles and nods
13:58 < phase> a lot of USCG, or 'coasties'.. my dad served i that and got his EE at the USCG academy
13:58 < phase> some of his brothers were pilots for them and the USAF
13:58 < phase> *in that
13:59 < phase> their parents, (my grandparents) came to the US between ww1 and ww2 from germany
14:00 < phase> or during ww2... not quite sure.. there's a bit of family secrecy around that.
14:00 < fenn> there should be public records
14:01 < fenn> immigration records are a genealogist's bread and butter
14:01 < phase> there was a lot of weird stuff going on during ww2 and shortly thereafter
14:01 < fenn> yeah
14:02 < phase> my grandfather on my mom's side captained a sub during the war.. and was a fleet admiral with the navy shortly after
14:03 -!- LeoTal1 [~Adium@179.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
14:07 < phase> i should have taken that full ride with the ROTC i was offered.  oh well... women and parties took the cake
14:08 < phase> i can still make some babies if they throw the right woman in my lap ;)
14:10 < phase> but i think the genetically alterations are going to be the preferred method over eugenics
14:10 < phase> *genicic alterations
14:10 < phase> jeez, i can't type today *genetic
14:28 -!- TC [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap
14:28 -!- TC is now known as Guest5005
14:32 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
14:42 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181182.unknown.vectranet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:49 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-23-46.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
15:44 -!- undead [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
15:50 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
15:59 < kanzure> hmph
16:00 < phase> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LAPGNZTF/letitsnow.jpg
16:01 < phase> :)
16:04 < kanzure> off-topic
16:04 < kanzure> why are you here again?
16:05 < phase> yeah, i just got done with an errand.. and holy shit, scraping a 1/4" of ice off my car was a bitch.  cut my hands up doing it
16:05 < phase> kanzure, i'm here because brabo recommended it, regarding vaping
16:05 < phase> and the chemistry involved
16:05 < phase> (with e-liquids)
16:07 < phase> kanzure: calm your quivers
16:08 < brabo> kanzure: why are you so aggressive towards people?
16:08 < phase> i know how you hate smileys, but they're actually good things ;)
16:09 < jrayhawk> somebody has to be
16:09 < phase> le tits now
16:16 < kanzure> without moderation this channel would be full of shit up to my eyeballs
16:18 < phase> it might be fun to go to 3723 Keats Dr. and see what's up
16:18 < kanzure> do you want to be a productive member of this community or are you just an edgelord.. or what?
16:18 -!- SDr [~SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:19 < phase> i do work for the US marshals and analytical work for the NSA and DOD
16:19 < phase> i could be quite a value for this community
16:19 < kanzure> maybe they should hire better help?
16:19 < brabo> kanzure: there's moderating and being unfriendly. that's a very diplomatic description. the former gets you productive members. the latter gets you different things.
16:19 < kanzure> phase: https://diyhpl.us/wiki/hplusroadmap
16:20 < phase> that's cool, kanzure... i appreciate that link
16:20 < kanzure> huh?
16:20 < brabo> kanzure: "maybe they should hire better help?" - there's literally no reason to be this offensive towards people.
16:21 < kanzure> what are you here for too?
16:21 < phase> if space colonization is on the agenda, i'll share this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSEL3uEOIlc
16:21 < kanzure> .title
16:21 < phase> i watch that channel regularly
16:21 < EmmyNoether> Will 100 people fly to space in 2020? - YouTube
16:22 < kanzure> brabo: please stop inviting people until you have a better sense for what signal/noise is around here
16:22 < kanzure> thank you.
16:22 < phase> kanzure, i can appreciate moderation.. but you being a control freak is a different story
16:23 < phase> a :) is a good thing
16:24 < brabo> kanzure: oh. i will do better. i will advise anyone to stay away from you.
16:24 < kanzure> great thank you
16:24 < brabo> rarely ever seen such asshattery ever in my life, wouldn't want to expose anyone to you ;)
16:24 -!- brabo [~verger@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has left ##hplusroadmap ["up yours"]
16:32 < jrayhawk> i am halfway tempted to script gnusha to autoban anyone who uses the word "nootropic"
16:32 < kanzure> part of the problem might be that the nootropics channel's /topic references this one
16:32 < kanzure> or it might be ##chemistry?
16:33 < jrayhawk> ouch
16:33 < kanzure> hrm it must have been changed
16:33 < kanzure> nootropics aren't necessarily bad, but all the existing ones are of exceedingly low quality or effect
16:34 < kanzure> and it would be nice to have 1000x stronger nootropics
16:35 < phase> jrayhawk, it's in the topic
16:35 < kanzure> i still haven't heard any ideas for how to achieve that (beyond my own that i published in here a few years ago)-- i'm pretty sure that's the only one.
16:36 < kanzure> see https://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/2017-02-03-beacon.pdf#page=15
16:38 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@2600:1012:b164:50ad:293b:9938:5e19:968a] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:39 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: srk, sknebel
16:39 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sknebel
16:39 < phase> i had my coffee and phenibut today.  the phen is probably starting to kick in now.
16:39 < jrayhawk> it's just that every time it's brought up in the past year, it's by insane people
16:39 < phase> GABA agonists are my fav
16:40 -!- Netsplit over, joins: srk
16:41 < phase> if you're calling me insane... that's ok.  i am a psychonaut
16:41 < jrayhawk> maybe if we could somehow restrict it to development and production or something
16:41 < phase> iq over 140 though
16:42 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+o jrayhawk] by ChanServ
16:42 < kanzure> wait before we nuke him.. what are your actual skills
16:43 <@jrayhawk> this is the weirdest role reversal
17:02 -!- phase [uid182095@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ybohphtukbzulfxn] has quit [Excess Flood]
17:02 -!- phase [uid182095@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-amkzzrpuonzfdmfq] has joined ##hplusroadmap
17:49 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@2600:1012:b164:50ad:293b:9938:5e19:968a] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:55 < phase> interesting
18:42 < kanzure> before yahoo groups evaporates entirely, here's a backup of orion's arm: https://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/yahoo-groups.orions_arm.2000-2019.zip
18:47 < kanzure> hm no
18:48 < kanzure> here we go https://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/yahoo-groups.orions_arm.2000-2013.zip
18:49 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/1207130619379142657
18:49 < EmmyNoether> Before #yahoogroups dies, here's a back up of the @orions_arm scifi world building mailing list from 2000-2013: https://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/yahoo-groups.orions_arm.2000-2013.zip (100 MB) // Main site: https://www.orionsarm.com/ (@kanzure)
18:52 < kanzure> phil metzger and maaku have had a weeklong discussion on space industrialization here https://twitter.com/lsparrish/status/1205563400241086464
18:52 < kanzure> .tw
18:53 < EmmyNoether> Is there an underappreciated/underserved niche in Space Economics? It seems common for economists to have weak grounding where concerns topics like space based solar power, space manufacturing, cheap access to space, etc. even though these have long been thought of by futurists. (@lsparrish)
18:54 < kanzure> fenn: also rescued luf-team (eric hunting stuff)
19:00 < kanzure> does docl even know about eric hunting stuff?
19:11 -!- superkuh_ [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap
19:15 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
19:26 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined ##hplusroadmap
19:51 < kanzure> orion's arm discord channel https://discord.gg/YkMCmZd
19:56 < phase> cool
19:58 < phase> emmynoether, very nice topics.  i've been getting more into simulation theory/virtual reality theory/double slit/Planck scale and 'it from bit' type stuff
19:59 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap
19:59 < phase> looking in more than looking out
19:59 < phase> but all inclusive, universally speaking.
20:01 < phase> trying to find evidence outside the 'universe' by looking within, so to speak
20:03 < phase> practicality of space races is very tech oriented and important as well.
20:06 < phase> i didn't finish what i started, gaining a my PE.  switched over and attained practice in architecture (building) and dabble in analytical work.  but technical challenges are very interesting and important.
20:08 < phase> i wish Bell Labs retained it's importance after it's fall
20:09 < phase> https://www.wired.com/2014/09/coupland-bell-labs/
20:17 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-175-208.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:28 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-32-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
20:29 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-32-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:56 -!- superkuh_ [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer]
21:34 -!- undead [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap
21:41 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
22:35 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
22:46 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@31.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
22:55 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap
23:11 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap
23:15 -!- FriendComputer [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
23:57 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-175-208.oc.oc.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
--- Log closed Wed Dec 18 00:00:40 2019