--- Log opened Sat Jan 04 00:00:56 2020 00:03 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:08 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ljoojglbspuaxoll] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:29 < TMA> fenn: of course we are allowed to say that, we have to choose the wording correctly; saying "privileged white male" is a genetics-based description 01:29 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:57 < phaze> who's 'we'? i can say whatever i want 01:57 < phaze> dumb politically correct asses 01:58 < phaze> *not politically correct asses 01:59 < phaze> some ppl are looking to have free speech governed, looks like. 02:13 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:16 < adlai> fenn: you can say almost anything you want about demogenetics after you start drawing [alternatively, for those who communicate in text alone: equations!] gaussians with multiple degrees of freedom (trivially: variance & displacement of ordinate) 02:18 < adlai> e.g., wealthy societies have greater carrying capacity for genetically inferior individuals, since societal wealth enables the construction and maintenance of environments able to sustain the inferiors who would not survive a week without some random vitamin 02:26 < adlai> phaze: you can think anything you want; and you probably are able to make any chirpset reasonably imitatable by a parrot; this does not mean that the parrot will listen to what it repeats. 02:28 < phaze> sounds like typical gook nonsense 02:28 < phaze> er g--k nonsense, rather 02:29 < phaze> not only think anything i want, but type anything i want. 02:30 < phaze> even if it's not what you might consider analogous wanna-be-poetry 02:33 < phaze> sounds like something said by an internment, or death camp operator. 02:34 < phaze> @adlai 02:34 < phaze> glorifying starvation, and shunning proper nutrition 02:35 < phaze> you should get a lobbed artillery shell on your head 02:35 < phaze> wouldn't waste good ammo on you! 02:36 < fenn> let's just jump straight to "you are literally worse than hitler" without even attempting to understand what is being said 02:37 < phaze> hard to imagine worse.. maybe worse than a young hitler. 02:38 < phaze> they're being raised in places like NK, no doubt 02:40 < phaze> don't dismiss them so fast, fenn 02:41 < phaze> they're also calling out for attention and love (lol, puke) 02:43 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:05 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:09 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:25 -!- JenElizabeth [~Jen@cpc155793-brmb11-2-0-cust474.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:34 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:45 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@136.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:54 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:22 < TMA> phaze: "we are allowed to say" was a synecdoche "we are allowed to say without being picked on by social justice warriors" 04:23 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:23 < phaze> i say 'i am allowed to say' because of the 1st amendment of the us constitution 04:24 < phaze> @tm 04:24 < phaze> @tma 04:24 < juri_> you are allowed to have me think less of you.. because.. yeah. 04:24 < TMA> phaze: not everyone here is from that declining superpower 04:25 < phaze> aware, that's because i recognized the distinction between 'i' and 'we' 04:26 < juri_> ... and if you want to hate on 'social justice warriors'... i'm right here, trying to develop technology beside you. be careful when you abuse stereotypes, you may engage in friendly fire. 04:26 < phaze> some say 'hi' and some say hi 04:26 < phaze> social justice warriors? what's that? 04:26 < phaze> socialism in the US? 04:26 < TMA> phaze: (also, as a point of style: it is customary to use nick followed by a colon on the beginning of the utterance. the @nick nonsense is useful for the twitterati) 04:27 < phaze> utterance. FUCK YOU 04:27 < phaze> get an ak in the back of your head motherfucker utterance, 04:27 < phaze> @tma die motherfucker 04:28 < phaze> utter that to our otter babies 04:28 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+o fenn] by ChanServ 04:28 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+b *!*uid182095@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmyyqukhxlnmtvox] by fenn 04:28 -!- phaze was kicked from ##hplusroadmap by fenn [phaze] 04:28 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [-o fenn] by fenn 04:29 * juri_ applauds. 04:29 * TMA apologizes for not recognizing a troll and feeding it 04:30 < juri_> TMA: we can only try. :) 04:30 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:30 < fenn> he's just an angry idiot, not a troll 04:30 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:33 < TMA> is "utterance" a bad word nowadays in the en_US? 04:33 < fenn> it's something an intellectual would say 04:33 < juri_> not that i know of. 04:34 < juri_> of course, i left en_US for germany a year back because of way too many interactions like that. 04:34 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:34 < juri_> it's all peaceful, and socialized here. 04:39 < fenn> if you're not dogpiling someone and calling for their job because they said "dongles" then you're fine by me 04:40 < fenn> it's an abuse of power and censorship just as much as if it came from the top 04:51 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:26 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181220.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:32 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:49 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:52 -!- HumanGeek [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:53 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:54 -!- CRM114 is now known as Urchin 06:23 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:31 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:42 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:55 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181220.unknown.vectranet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:56 < kanzure> fenn: i was interpreting it to mean that "elite stratospheres of society would be infringed upon by genetically enhanced individuals, even if the success of the upper echelons is currently not predominantly genetic in origin" 06:59 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:03 -!- Guest65127 [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:10 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:24 < juri_> fenn: some social justice warriors have less distasteful tactics. you won't find me dogpiling on anyone. i don't have the time. there's real problems to solve... and despite my lack of some specific specialized skillsets that would be useful (gods, to do life over again and go medical), i prefer to use the skills i do have to as much advantage to the cause as possible. 07:34 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:43 < juri_> today, i'm increasing the speed and precision of my haskell based slicing application by use of the stateT monad. 07:43 < juri_> tremble in fear. 08:05 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca84:b300:d82a:51a6:671a:ae97] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:06 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dpxtsshpxssxeowc] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:11 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:29 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:07 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:18 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@136.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:19 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@136.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:31 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has quit 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modern humans from archaic hominins" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-44877-x 10:39 < kanzure> "Establishing cerebral organoids as models of human-specific brain evolution" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2018/12/19/500934.full.pdf 10:40 < kanzure> https://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/human_chimpanzee_brain_differences.png 10:41 < kanzure> "Lineage divergence of activity-driven transcription and evolution of cognitive ability" https://www.nature.com/articles/nrn.2017.138 11:58 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:14 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:15 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Client Quit] 12:35 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:49 -!- RoCxWizard [~RoCxWiz@cpe-66-68-113-113.austin.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:56 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined 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