--- Log opened Mon Jan 27 00:00:23 2020 00:35 -!- orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@194.230.147.90] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:36 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@77-58-192-184.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:45 -!- orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@194.230.147.90] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...] 00:51 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@194.230.147.90] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:27 -!- raonyguimaraes [~raonyguim@89.101.121.177] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:30 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:30 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@194.230.147.90] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Surprised it took so long for one of those to come along 05:30 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: bye bye] 06:03 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:06 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Client Quit] 06:24 -!- raonyguimaraes [~raonyguim@89.101.121.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:24 -!- raonyguimaraes [~raonyguim@89.101.121.177] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:03 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-apdrgejbvndcypgf] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:28 -!- bittersweetsymph [~Artemis@unaffiliated/bittersweetsymph] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:28 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:31 < justanotheruser> what would happen if I trained gpt-2 on github merge request 07:31 < justanotheruser> input: merge request and linked issue descriptions, output: diff 07:31 < justanotheruser> I guess the entire existing codebase would have to be an input too 07:32 < nsh> a different kind of mess, i'm guessing 07:36 < kanzure> you might destroy the universe like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJRh-37H4fA 07:42 -!- lewlx [~lewlx@51B73694.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:43 -!- lewlx [~lewlx@51B73694.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:43 < nsh> .t 07:43 < EmmyNoether> Youtube Poop - Doc Brown destroys the entire universe - YouTube 07:43 < nsh> \o/ 07:46 < kanzure> nsh: maybe there is more to life than spending dozens of hours per day making carefully-tagged bookmarks? 07:47 -!- raonyguimaraes [~raonyguim@89.101.121.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:48 < nsh> well maybe if we only get a single run-through 07:49 < nsh> but if we get multiple then some decent bookmarking on the first run is reasonable enough 07:49 -!- lewlx [~lewlx@51B73694.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:55 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca84:b300:61ab:1f7:148f:1700] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:56 -!- raonyguimaraes [~raonyguim@89.101.121.177] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:58 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: bye bye] 08:02 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:20 -!- lewlx [~lewlx@217.65.121.67] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:20 < heath> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-53042-3 "Life without a brain: Neuroradiological and behavioral evidence of neuroplasticity necessary to sustain brain function in the face of severe hydrocephalus" 08:23 < kanzure> is there a good article that discusses the hydrocephaly people with like 5 mm of brain matter? 08:23 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: bye bye] 08:23 < kanzure> and with evidence that it's not just imaging artifacts? 08:25 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:44 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:53 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-23-46.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:04 -!- raonyguimaraes [~raonyguim@89.101.121.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:11 < lsneff> I found a source of 4k lcds, so I'm gonna throw together a light-field display with microlenses 09:17 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-175-208.oc.oc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:52 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@2600:1012:b15f:9162:7958:ae58:56a8:d505] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:15 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-32-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:16 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:17 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-32-173.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:18 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:22 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:03 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@101.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:18 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:50 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@2600:1012:b15f:9162:7958:ae58:56a8:d505] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:55 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@23.sub-174-195-207.myvzw.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:59 < kanzure> "However, the total cortical volume of R222 is only 7% less than age matched controls (see Fig. 1)." 11:59 < kanzure> do they mean volume used by cortical tissue or do they mean cranial volume? 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Yeah, you're right, there's no difference 18:49 < kanzure> https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/congress-now-funding-controversial-geoengineering-plan-b-spray-particles-sky-cool-earth 18:58 < lsneff> kanzure: How'd you get into transhumanism? 19:30 -!- mischulz [6d3fe5c4@109.63.229.196] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:31 -!- mischulz [6d3fe5c4@109.63.229.196] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:46 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-175-208.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:51 < maaku> fenn: define 'kids' there are plenty of post-grad researchers 19:51 < maaku> but the answer is probably: because zero-g flights a super expensive 19:55 < maaku> if money were no object I would totally arrange a zero-g flight for my kids birthday party 19:55 < maaku> i bet people do that, but you probably don't see pictures of them online for the obvious sharing-photos-of-kids-online-is-a-really-bad-idea reasons 20:02 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@101.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:04 < kanzure> lsneff: it was a long time ago... i don't know, making things better seems kind of obvious. 20:05 < kanzure> but specifically the transhumanists? they communicated by email and i was good at reading email so that stuck around 2006-2007 for me. 20:07 < maaku> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW5wB8rJ8Zc 20:07 < EmmyNoether> Watching paint dry - Sixty Symbols - YouTube 20:08 < kanzure> i got into programming because of pokemon + gameshark (and a decade later it led to https://github.com/kanzure/pokecrystal 20:08 < maaku> Feeling like not dieing was the obvious trigger for me. 20:08 < kanzure> which is now listed on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_commercial_video_games_with_available_source_code 20:08 < kanzure> also there was that weird productivity cult that i was indoctrinated into in 2005 20:14 < lsneff> kanzure: Oh, do tell 20:14 < lsneff> maaku: Yes, that's pretty important to me too... 20:18 < kanzure> huh, i didn't realize we had source code for tony hawk's underground https://github.com/thug1src/thug 20:23 < maaku> also body image issues when I was a teen 20:24 < maaku> i'm totally over that now, but why shouldn't we be able to have whatever body we want, or try out fully reversable changes? 20:25 < maaku> The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask was recently decompiled 20:25 < maaku> https://github.com/n64decomp/majora 20:28 < fenn> good point. anyone rich enough to blow $50k on their kid's birthday party probably wouldn't want to paint a target on their kid 20:29 < fenn> but still i'd expect the company to have stock photo kids in their promotional media 20:29 < fenn> there's only one company doing it, so maybe they are just missing out on a whole demographic 20:35 < lsneff> maaku: Absolutely, that'd certainly be nice to be able to do. 20:38 < lsneff> The question is: will we ever have the ability to do these things? 20:54 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:00 < LeoTal> lsneff: You've seen http://yudkowsky.net/singularity/simplified yes? 21:52 < maaku> well, the answer in this rorom is an unqualified yes 21:52 < maaku> but we're all optimists by nature 22:03 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca84:b300:61ab:1f7:148f:1700] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:08 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-apdrgejbvndcypgf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:28 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@101.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:50 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] --- Log closed Tue Jan 28 00:00:22 2020