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07:35 < kanzure> why aren't email mixers used more frequently?
07:59 < superkuh> It's lipstick on a pig?
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08:32 < jrayhawk> what's an email mixer
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08:48 < kanzure> jrayhawk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_remailer
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08:59 < lsneff> I think because it's pretty useful to be able to get replies to your email.
09:14 < fenn> is that actually a limitation of remailers/mixers?
09:16 < fenn> i can only find "how to run a remailer" type FAQs, not "how to use a remailer"
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09:27 < kanzure> fenn: i think it's just send an email to the email address?
09:27 < kanzure> no wait that doesn't sound right.
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10:12 < lsneff> I suspect it requires you to email a .eml to the remailer?
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15:47 < kanzure> hmph
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17:55 < maaku> kanzure: the answer to your original question is: "because nobody runs remailer servers anymore"
17:56 < maaku> and nobody runs remailer services in part because no one uses them, but also because the rise of gmail et al makes running your own email server impossible
17:56 < maaku> the mail won't get delivered
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18:04  * superkuh is impossible.
18:13 < maaku> s/impossible/too much work for a reasonable person to bother with/
18:14 < maaku> although send me an email from your server, and it's a reasonable-money bet that your email goes straight to junk
18:18 < lsneff> .title https://deepmind.com/blog/article/A_new_model_and_dataset_for_long-range_memory
18:18 < saxo> A new model and dataset for long-range memory | DeepMind
18:30 < lsneff> I suppose a remailer service could send emails through gmail, no?
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18:53 < kanzure> code review plzkthx? it's an IRC log timestamper https://gist.github.com/kanzure/b806e07bbe83357c6f9864b7644d40e9
18:56 < lsneff> Does opentimestamp put hashes of the stamped files on the bitcoin blockchain?
18:56 < lsneff> Website was a little unclear
18:58 < kanzure> yes, but the hashes are in a merkle tree which also gets hashed
18:58 < kanzure> and the opentimestamps calendar server gives you some data about how to reconstruct your own branch of the merkle tree
18:59 < kanzure> and later shares with you the full information to verify the timestamp against the blockchain, once the timestamp is "mature" (the transaction with the merkle root got into a block)
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19:13 < lsneff> How long does that take?
19:16 < kanzure> https://a.pool.eternitywall.com/
19:16 < kanzure> lately that's about 2 hours according to the stats for this opentimestamps calendar server.
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19:30 < maaku> Also it doesn't actually put any data on the blockchain. It uses sign-to-contract to commit to the data in the course of what (could be) a normal payment.
19:30 < maaku> At least I think it does that now.. it didn't originally, but there was a PR to make it work that way at some point. Don't know if it got merged.
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19:36 < kanzure> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mysterious_Island
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