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02:22 < nsh> how cheaply/easily can i get a photonic parametric downcoverter?
02:22 < nsh> *down-converter
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04:05 < nsh> 360EUR https://eksmaoptics.com/nonlinear-and-laser-crystals/nonlinear-crystals/beta-barium-borate-bbo-crystals/
04:06 < nsh> or if you can grind your own optics then https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/barium-borate.html
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06:27 < lsneff> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22365403
06:27 < saxo> Gray Goo | Hacker News
06:31 < nsh> Make America Gray a'Gooin'
06:37 < lsneff> One of the comments made a good point. In most cases, there isn't any way for "nanobots" to harvest enough energy from their environment to replicate exponentially.
06:45 < darsie> Maybe slower, but still exponentially.
06:45 < darsie> Or not replicate at all.
07:04 < lsneff> Self-replicating nanosystems are probably very difficult to do in environments that aren't hard vacuums.
07:16 < kanzure> more likely that first nanobots will be biological cells with organelle-computers floating around inside.
07:16 < kanzure> or emulsion-encapsulated silicon components
07:19 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b07qbhYHZbU
07:19 < saxo> FreeCAD - Using the Spreadsheet for Parametrized Sketch based Parts. - YouTube
07:40 < lsneff> Can we even break up silicon wafers into pieces that small?
07:43 < kanzure> theft of micro deposit verification method https://www.wired.com/2008/05/man-allegedly-b/
08:07 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=adb4d11e Bryan Bishop: fix higher quality sleep rs73598374 >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/genetic-modifications/
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08:15 < kanzure> need mouse study for melanin-deficiency and whether that impacts intelligence significantly.
08:15 < kanzure> the claim from bram cohen is that blue eyes confer a 5% selective advantage, higher IQ, things like that, in part because of neural melanin distribution throughout body
08:15 < kanzure> need solid reference for this though...
08:18 < kanzure> .title https://sia.tech/skynet2020
08:18 < saxo> Sia
08:18 < kanzure> erm...
08:19 < kanzure> i tested it with gmaxwell-simple_verifyable_execution.txt https://siasky.net/CAAU7VM6yKZTlFGlxMNz88MbZTpE7spBGtEYFBICd_9fSw
08:19 < kanzure> not sure who is paying for the contract... or what the default term is.
08:21 < kanzure> also their censorship resistance claim seems suspect; surely if the payment transactions don't get mined on their network, then the content will be censored.
08:22 < kanzure> lsneff: depends on cell size.
08:24 < lsneff> kanzure: How large are you talking?
08:59 < kanzure> there are cells that are dozens of mm in diameter
09:00 < kanzure> sitting down to type stanford blockchain conference, will be unavailable https://cbr.stanford.edu/sbc20/
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09:10 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=85f54402 Bryan Bishop: welcome remarks >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/welcome-remarks/
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09:31 < lsneff> Wonder if it'd be possible to coerce the surrounding cell to move around.
09:31 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=cb512240 Bryan Bishop: more words >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/welcome-remarks/
09:31 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=22e78b00 Bryan Bishop: more words >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/lower-bounds-limits-plasma/
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09:37 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=fd252353 Bryan Bishop: more words about plasma >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/lower-bounds-limits-plasma/
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10:03 < nsh> (nothing does anything exponentially indefinitely)
10:05 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=f447cffd Bryan Bishop: transcript: arbitrum >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/arbitrum-v2/
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10:07 < juri_> I've been asked to give a talk at a haskell conference. wish we luck not looking like an idiot. :)
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10:08 < nsh> if you make up about 60% of what you say, chances are nobody will call you out on account of also not wanting to look like an idiot
10:09 < juri_> many of my coworkers will be in the audience.
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11:02 < kanzure> python static analysis tool thing https://github.com/pschanely/CrossHair
11:37 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=dfdeb65d Bryan Bishop: transcript: deanonymization of monero and zcash transactions >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/linking-anonymous-transactions/
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15:56 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/dstadulis/status/1230277531443482625
15:56 < saxo> lol @EliBenSasson describing sequentialization constraints (“two women can’t have a baby in 4.5 months”) says (paraphrasing): I hope @kanzure doesn’t get any (trans humanist) ideas of hacking that. #SBC20 (@dstadulis)
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16:14 < fenn> superkuh: what sort of things will we wish we had had, when the (possible future) pandemic gets going in earnest?
16:14 < superkuh> IVs and saline bags.
16:14 < fenn> that's helpful for pneumonia?
16:14 < superkuh> Dehydration due to lack of beds in hospitals was the major killer in past pandemics.
16:14 < superkuh> Of influenza.
16:14 < superkuh> Well, beds and materials.
16:26 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=4fa745a6 Bryan Bishop: more plonk >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/plonk/
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17:20 < fenn> dunno how to even get bags without a prescription
17:20 < fenn> moooo
17:20 < fenn> just herd me to the FEMA death camps already
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17:30 < fenn> IV bags seems like something anybody who lives far from town ought to have ready to go
17:30 < fenn> really odd that it's prescription only
17:43 < lsneff> There's a major lack of open-source/free geometric modeling kernels.
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18:37 < lsneff> Maybe modern computers are fast enough for CSG.
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22:07 < fenn> ended up buying a bunch of bird antibiotics on ebay
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23:41 < TMA> i guess there is enough risk in administering the IV (of any kind) to warrant them being prescription only in the eyes of the regulator
23:42 < TMA> (delivering air bubbles into the bloodstream)
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23:44  * TMA remembers that the patients were instructed to watch for bubbles in the IV hose and inform the nurse
23:45 < TMA> that was really odd, because I got the IV when I was really, really ill and not able to watch it
23:45 < fenn> if this were really a concern they'd have electronic bubble detectors
23:46 < TMA> not in pre 1989 in socialist Czechoslovakia
23:49 < TMA> i remember that the flaps on the needle broke partially, but the needle was not discarded, just more adhesive was applied  flaps: http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00GCJQAScKLtiq/Disposable-Intravenous-Needle-Scalp-Vein-Needle-1.jpg
23:50 < fenn> apparently it only matters if it's a really big bubble (100ml)
23:50 < fenn> "central" IV lines are bigger and can transmit bigger bubbles
23:52 < TMA> maybe it was something to busy the patients with
23:52 < fenn> it seems there's some diagreement in the medical community
23:55 < fenn> infusion pumps have Air In Line sensors
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