--- Log opened Sat Mar 07 00:00:15 2020
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03:46 < vee_> altered carbon is crap, deathist propaganda
03:47 < vee_> I'm going to scrub it from my magnetic data banks
04:31 < archels_> yeh, I didn't make it past S01E01, even though the book is one of my favourites
04:31 < archels_> (read the book instead!)
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05:03 < juri_> altered carbon is great. and i'm no deathist. :)
05:32 < kanzure> vee_: i think the optimal way to watch that show might be one frame every 60 seconds and just admire the frame and make up your own story to go along with it
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05:47 < lsneff> The second season is even more so.
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06:43 < kanzure> .tw https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22506722
06:43 < saxo> Och, A cannae finde nae tweet
06:43 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22506722
06:43 < saxo> Cloud Storage for $2 per TB per month | Hacker News
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07:21 < lsneff> Only $40000 a month to store a mindfile.
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07:27 < lsneff> Storage is so expensive these days. Where can one get 20 petabytes for less than a fortune *sigh*.
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08:25 < kanzure> https://github.com/kliment/explicitcad
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09:21 < darsie> Storing a brain is cheaper.
09:21 < kanzure> yep
09:21 < kanzure> the brain continues to be the best implementation of brain we have at the moment
09:25 < darsie> How much sense does it make to store a whole body to map where the neurons go to, like sensor and motor neurons?
09:26 < darsie> Compared to storing just the head.
09:30 < darsie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5D_optical_data_storage The memory crystal is capable of storing up to 360 terabytes worth of data[4][5] for billions of years.
09:34 < kanzure> https://synbiobeta.com/synbiobeta-covid-19-town-hall-how-can-synthetic-biologists-contribute-to-the-response/
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09:53 < fenn> hard drives are ~$15/TB so you're paying for redundancy, maintenance, physical security, and bandwidth
09:55 < fenn> oh it's sia
10:04 < fenn> i think many people would be willing to put up with lower availability than 99.9999% for a lower price. 3x redundancy ain't free
10:06 < fenn> ah nm. /me reads
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11:28 < lsneff> darsie: I've been worried about that too
11:28 < lsneff> Cryopreserved brains don't have that io mapping.
11:29 < darsie> We could learn walking etc. again.
11:30 < darsie> If we use robot bodies.
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11:34 < fenn> i doubt a 5-10x increase in storage volume and mass increases the costs by 5-10x
11:34 < fenn> for storing the body
11:35 < lsneff> You wouldn't even have eye mapping.
11:35 < darsie> It might, if it's in a passively cooled asteroid.
11:35 < lsneff> Well, I guess if you store the whole head, you would
11:39 < fenn> did DIYBIO ever figure out that you can ship DIY coronavirus test kits to people
11:39 < fenn> instead of shipping the potentially dangerous samples to a lab
11:40 < fenn> DIY means "do it yourself" after all
11:47 < fenn> it's got to be better than the alternative
11:47 < fenn> .tw https://twitter.com/into_the_brush/status/1234685467682979840
11:47 < saxo> I live in Seattle, I have all symptoms of COVID-19 and have a history of chronic bronchitis. // Since I work in a physical therapy clinic with many 65+ patients and those with chronic illnesses, I decided to be responsible and go to get tested. This is how that went. (@into_the_brush)
12:02 < fenn> still can't believe the cheapest piece of stamped metal that just holds a hard drive is $5/drive
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16:02 < kanzure> .wik shellworld
16:02 < saxo> "A shellworld is any of several types of hypothetical megastructures: /  A planet or a planetoid turned into series of concentric matryoshka doll-like layers in the supported by massive pillars." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shellworld
16:02 < kanzure> i was not aware that the british interplanetary society was so unusable http://www.jbis.org.uk/paper.php?p=2009.62.32
16:19 < kanzure> what kind of encoding is this? MjAwOS42Mi4zMiwyMDIwLTAzLTA5LDRTOTU5NTAyQk40NTA1MjVZLGthbnp1cmVAZ21haWwuY29tLGYxYjlkY2RkNjM1OWY3MDIzODA2ZjZmYTc1MWFlOGY5
16:23 < kanzure> the british interplanetary society claims this is a hash but it doesn't look like a hash i've seen before
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16:38 < fenn> "Click here to see a topographic map of Venus and a color image of the hellish surface sent back by a Soviet lander. Note: The map is a large image (30 Kbytes compressed)."
16:38 < fenn> umm.. 30KB was never large
16:47 < fenn> same paper http://ultimax.com/whitepapers/ShellWorldsJBISfinal.pdf http://ultimax.com/whitepapers/ShellWorlds4Aosta2011-final.pdf
16:48 < kanzure> google scholar didn't have that
16:56 < kanzure> their site is a blast from the past
16:56 < fenn> yeah, links to friends-partners.org which was apparently slapped together in 1996 and been untouched since
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20:17 < ShawdowDawn7> hello
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