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01:48 < fenn> .title https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200317/04381644114/volunteers-3d-print-unobtainable-11000-valve-1-to-keep-covid-19-patients-alive-original-manufacturer-threatens-to-sue.shtml
01:48 < saxo> Volunteers 3D-Print Unobtainable $11,000 Valve For $1 To Keep Covid-19 Patients Alive; Original Manufacturer Threatens To Sue | Techdirt
01:49 < fenn> "China's government researchers say they have found the Japanese-developed anti-flu drug Avigan effective in treating patients infected with the new coronavirus and will promote its use." https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200317_48/
01:54 < fenn> alright superkuh, now tell me how to make Avigan out of pepper and toothpaste
02:18 < archels_> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7F1cnWup9M
02:18 < saxo> Coronavirus Epidemic Update 34: US Cases Surge, Chloroquine & Zinc Treatment Combo, Italy Lockdown - YouTube
02:36 < TMA> fenn: if you are interested in remdesivir instead: https://i.nyx.cz/files/00/00/21/16/2116930_097652e40628f52bb118.jpg?name=Remdesivir-total_synthesis.jpg
02:42 < fenn> well that's not gonna happen in my kitchen
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05:10 < lsneff> Looks like emergency UBI is actually going to happen in the states.
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06:08 < archels_> positive reports coming in about "favipiravir"
06:12 < kanzure_> lsneff: ehh that's not that interesting for this channel... verging on politics.
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06:13 < lsneff> Fair enough
06:16 < kanzure> .title https://twitter.com/xuezhao/status/1239691527225368576
06:16 < saxo> Lan Xuezhao sur Twitter : 'Isn't it insane that I can find #COVID19 testing kits and N95 masks faster than the CDC? Just got the first shipment of CFDA-approved testing kits, used in China, Australia and Singapore. It's an antibody blood test that shows results in 15 mins.… https://t.co/GK4KlAHNJD'
06:16 < kanzure> https://www.biomedomics.com/products/infectious-disease/covid-19-rt/
06:18 < kanzure> https://www.kaggle.com/allen-institute-for-ai/CORD-19-research-challenge
06:19 < kanzure> https://www.classcentral.com/report/new-courses-october-2018/ wasn't there a search engine specifically for online classes?
06:20 < superkuh> fenn, hm. It's fluorinated.
06:25 < fenn> 600 mg HCQ per day after 6 days, 90% of patients tested COVID-19 negative.  96% of control group tested positive after 6 days.
06:25 < fenn> HCQ = hydroxychloroquine
06:26 < fenn> combination of HCQ * Azithromycin is most effective treatment
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07:22 < fenn> "Hydroxychloroquine was approved for medical use in the United States in 1955. The wholesale cost in the developing world is about $4.65 per month"
07:22 < fenn> so what's the hold-up?
07:25 < fenn> .title https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32150618
07:25 < saxo> In Vitro Antiviral Activity and Projection of Optimized Dosing Design of Hydroxychloroquine for the Treatment of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome ...  - PubMed - NCBI
07:25 < fenn> dated march 9
07:25 < fenn> seems like there ought to be enough just lying around to get started with treatment right away, but i've heard nothing
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08:37 < fenn> gah stupid google docs urls
08:37 < fenn> can't tell which of these drafts is newer
08:38 < fenn> .title https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTi-g18ftNZUMRAj2SwRPodtscFio7bJ7GdNgbJAGbdfF67WuRJB3ZsidgpidB2eocFHAVjIL-7deJ7/pub
08:38 < saxo> An Effective Treatment for Coronavirus (COVID-19)_
08:38 < fenn> .title https://drive.google.com/file/d/186Bel9RqfsmEx55FDum4xY_IlWSHnGbj/view?usp=sharing
08:38 < saxo> Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19.pdf - Google Drive
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08:54 < fltrz> https://jcm.asm.org/content/jcm/43/5/2339.full.pdf
08:57 < fltrz> fast isothermal detection
09:13 < fenn> yep
09:14 < fenn> what's frustrating about these test papers is they're completely obvious
09:15 < fenn> oh this is from 2004, maybe it was new then
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15:14 < nmz787> friend in Boston virology academic scene says the limiting factor is CLIA approved labs
15:14 < nmz787> said that most approved labs have 96 well (reaction) realtime PCR machines, with a  few of those being used for controls... so not good throughput at all
15:14 < nmz787> if a high throughput machine could be used, one machine could process hundreds of thousands of patients a day (like a Roche 8500)
15:15 < nmz787> so they're hoping to get the CLIA red-tape waived to open up academic labs, and are working to adapt the high volume sequencers to use the real-time PCR protocol
15:15 < nmz787> additionally he said samples need inactivated   which takes time
15:15 < nmz787> https://diagnostics.roche.com/us/en/products/systems/cobas_-8000-modular-analyzer-series.html
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18:24 < kanzure> so when people say "flatten the curve" they're not professing anti-singularity ideals right?
18:25 < nmz787> I thought it was talking about getting slim, no more love handles
18:25 < kanzure> "flatten the curve" is just a widely misunderstood a 3d modeling campaign by autodesk
18:26 < nmz787> haha
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