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06:02 < kanzure> "Distributed auditing proofs of liabilities" https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/468.pdf
06:05 < lsneff> .title https://urbit.org/blog/introducing-os1/
06:05 < saxo> Introducing OS 1 - Urbit
06:06 < lsneff> The concepts beneath urbit are very compelling to me, but it's just too weird.
06:10 < kanzure> weird isn't an acceptable excuse, surely there are much better reasons to ignore urbit
06:31 < diginet> ignore urbit because it's rarefied crankery
06:32 < Urchin> SKI combinator virtual machine for neo-monarchists
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06:42 < lsneff> Yes, I included that in weird
06:42 < lsneff> But you're right, it's not a good excuse
06:43 < lsneff> The idea of having an entire system built around code being data, everything being serializable, is very exciting.
06:43 < lsneff> It's like a jaunt back to the era of lisp machines
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06:57 < lsneff> The guy who started it is a nutcase though
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07:56 < nsh> rarefied crankery eh? *perks up*
08:00 < nsh> <sbp> no, Urbit OS is what happens when you create TempleOS but make every decision wrong
08:02 < lsneff> Templeos was really fascinating
08:02 < lsneff> I don't know if I'd call urbit OS an operating system, but I guess it really is, just not in the normal way.
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10:19 < kanzure> "Proof-carrying data from accumulation schemes" https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/499.pdf
10:30 < heath> jrayhawk: re: bluespec, google used it internally. I thought it was for their TPUs, but could very well be mistaken
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10:31 < heath> glad to see all the other haskell hdl projects mentioned in here
10:35 < srk> <3
10:50 < jrayhawk> "Urbit IDs are individually represented by non-fungible ERC-721 tokens" oof
11:00 < jrayhawk> i suppose urbit is vitalik's "distributed world computer" promotional horseshit fever dream become unintentionally manifest. tragic that they would become tied to the hip like that.
12:27 < lsneff> Well, it's very much the opposite I think.
12:28 < lsneff> Urbit is inherently local, and for one user only
12:58 < lsneff> .title http://www.paulgraham.com/hundred.html
12:58 < saxo> The Hundred-Year Language
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15:10 < fenn> juri_: do implicitcad.org examples expire? it looks like you've got essentially a content-addressable data store for hosting user created cad files, and the website itself would work as a repository of contributed designs without a lot of extra work. it would be good to get the licensing terms nailed down early. perhaps CC0
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15:26 < juri_> fenn: the website is licensed under the AGPLv3. I do have a log of all of the objects, but having no way to license the content users have uploaded. I just have logs so i can tell how many people use the site.
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15:53 < kanzure> https://oztypewriter.blogspot.com/2014/11/last-days-of-speed-typing-glory.html
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17:01 < root____3> Hello everyone
17:01 < root____3> do you know nootropic that works.
17:01 < root____3> ?
17:03 < kanzure> no they don't work
17:05 < root____3> oh really ? okey. ı did not know
17:05 < kanzure> there's some results. but it's not any significant number of orders of magnitude.
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17:19 < prometheus> kanzure : a small amount of methylphenidate works. May be
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17:37 < jrayhawk> https://darktka.github.io/ 2017 Nootropics Survey
17:57 < fenn> they're both gone
17:58 < jrayhawk> oh, right
17:58 < fenn> why did nobody here get into TDCS?
17:59 < fenn> it seems to have some merit and has a very low barrier to entry
18:14 < kanzure> too obsessed with rtms
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18:49 < kanzure> hm
18:57 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23041747
18:57 < saxo> Repository for Open Source Mouse Firmware and Hardware | Hacker News
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19:05 < hebelehubehe> @search <ifr>
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19:08 < superkuh> Technically I did TDCS for GVS.
19:11 < fenn> there is that. i was just talking about that yesterday
19:11 < fenn> making people dance in synchrony by blindfolding and stimulating the vestibular nerve
19:12 < fenn> like the DARPA cyborg beetle or that cockroach in the fifth element
19:12 < fenn> but it's a far cry from intelligence augmentation
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19:39 < fenn> https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/05/01/why-are-clinical-trials-so-complicated
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19:50 < fenn> i had no idea about all this seed crystal polymorph stuff
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19:57 < fenn> Before the hydrothermal method for growing quartz crystals, Bell Labs spent several years producing commercial quantities of the piezoelectric crystals of ethylene diamine tartrate for use as oscillators. Then one day they started getting “parasitic growths” on their lovely clean crystals. Investigation showed it was a previously unknown monohydrate form.
19:57 < fenn> Despite developing a cunning way to reducing the impact of the monohydrate https://patents.google.com/patent/US2592729 volume production never resumed. Partly this was due to the development of ways to grow artificial quartz, but if it wasn’t for the monohydrate it may well have been we’d be using EDT crystals in our digital devices to this day.
20:01 < fenn> "one professor who had a jar full of mixed up dirt he’d collected from all the labs he’d ever worked at. When he couldn’t get something to crystallise, he’d add a pinch from the jar, and surprisingly often those magic crystals would form. The downside, however, with that particular jar would set any geiger counters merrily clicking away, as one of the labs he’d been in dealt with
20:01 < fenn> processing of uranium ores"
20:01 < fenn> maybe the ionizing radiation itself causes nucleation
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23:38 < adlai> ionizing radiation is one of the ways of adding a bit (literally, although perhaps not in such a clean base as binary) of randomness to the collapse towards stationary action
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