--- Log opened Mon May 11 00:00:17 2020 00:02 < lsneff> Is C at fault for purity not being more popular? 00:03 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:04 < juri_> people are at fault, but finding fault doesn't get us anywhere. writing code does. 00:05 < lsneff> You're right, of course 00:05 < lsneff> I'm just trying to understand, really. 00:15 < juri_> I just think it took a long time to build a language with good enough purity that it could be worth respecting, in a time that capitalism is eating everything. 00:33 < archels> "it's very important to take care of the legal niceties first, before sticking your head inside the laser brain-milling nano-scanner machine" 01:10 -!- juri__ [~juri@178.63.35.222] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:11 -!- urkk_ [~urkk@173.142.239.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:12 -!- ffranr_ [~ffranr@79-65-232-120.host.pobb.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:12 -!- Hooloo42 [Hooloovoo@sorunome.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:14 -!- ffranr__ [~ffranr@79-65-232-120.host.pobb.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:15 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Hooloovo0, nsh, juri_, urkk 01:16 -!- ffranr_ [~ffranr@79-65-232-120.host.pobb.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:21 -!- nsh [~lol@integer.musalbas.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:39 -!- nsh [~lol@integer.musalbas.com] has quit [Changing host] 01:39 -!- nsh [~lol@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:50 -!- juri__ is now known as juri_ 02:12 -!- shawwwn [uid6132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bytwqpenxsuabhbf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 02:13 < L29Ah> 09:39:57] Something that annoys me to no end is that if I want to use my laptop to do work, I can't just hook up the processor/gpu in my desktop to my laptop when I need that extra oomph. 02:13 < L29Ah> why not? don't you have a spare PCIe bus in your laptop? 02:14 < L29Ah> 09:56:53] I'd like to integrate it into GHC. i'm pretty sold on haskell for all of the things. 02:14 < L29Ah> what do you think of the solutions to the shittiness of Haskell's handling of nested records? 03:31 < juri_> I haven't seen a solution that works better than "write simple functions, abuse the flat namespace." 03:35 < juri_> haskell does a good job of being a collection of algorithms, rather than a pile of code. all languages require that you play to their strengths, haskell just has a very different set of strengths. 05:21 -!- ffranr__ is now known as ffranr 05:50 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@2804:14c:5ba3:21d::100c] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:52 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@2804:14c:5ba3:21d::100c] has quit [Client Quit] 05:52 -!- foxp2 [~foxp2@2804:14c:5ba3:21d::100c] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:00 -!- foxp2 [~foxp2@2804:14c:5ba3:21d::100c] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 06:07 < ffranr> https://github.com/in3rsha/sha256-animation 06:07 < ffranr> SHA-256 Animation 06:09 < ffranr> Very cool. 06:15 -!- foxp2 [~foxp2@2804:14c:5ba3:21d::100c] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:15 -!- foxp2 [~foxp2@2804:14c:5ba3:21d::100c] has quit [Client Quit] 06:20 -!- foxp2 [~foxp2@ec2-3-229-163-177.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:22 < fenn> nice 06:37 -!- foxp2 [~foxp2@ec2-3-229-163-177.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Quit: \/\/] 06:40 -!- foxp2 [~foxp2@ec2-54-144-139-49.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:34 < lsneff> L29Ah: Are you normally able to connect a cpu over pcie? Cause I'm not. 07:37 < L29Ah> you can connect GPU, also you can plug in InfiniBand 07:38 < L29Ah> and that's the closest to connecting a CPU you can get w/o switching to mainframe computers 07:38 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@172.58.19.61] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:39 < L29Ah> cuz even if your OS could magically distribute the computational tasks over network, your connectivity is probably bad enough that you won't get much performance improvement (w/o optimizing for shitty connections) 07:40 < lsneff> Yeah, that's a fair point 07:41 < lsneff> Software would have to be aware of it and almost treat different computers as a generalization of NUMA nodes 07:47 -!- ffranr [~ffranr@79-65-232-120.host.pobb.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:55 < nsh> i would simply reformulate my problems to have low communications complexity 07:56 < nsh> (this is a joke because of the inherent - at least thus far - non-simplicity of such a task) 07:56 < nsh> (but it's only a chore because the humons haven't put much effort into understanding process algebras in terms of higher non-commutative geometries) 08:04 < nsh> almost all tasks that appear to require sequential dependencies on prior calculations can in fact be unrolled into non-local coordination systems if you understand comprehensively the full symmetry group of the algebra of the problem space in which you are attempting to operate. by having compositional rotations in a spinor space and a 'spacetime' equipped with light-cone structures then space-like separate processing units are causally overlapping as 08:04 < nsh> long as you can phase conjugate reflect (decompose) the superposed rotations of point-events as they expand into light-cones ('through' other events/rotations) and thus condense them back into points 08:04 < nsh> ach well, never mind eh 08:04 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:04 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Client Quit] 08:05 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:08 < L29Ah> /me's brain explodes 08:09 < kanzure> L29Ah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w 08:13 -!- HumanGeek [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:17 < nsh> .t 08:17 < saxo> Rockwell Retro Encabulator - YouTube 08:28 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=c4379c1e Michael Folkson: Add Sergei on Lightning privacy >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/lightning-hack-day/2020-05-09-sergei-tikhomirov-lightning-privacy/ 08:28 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=078ea180 Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #105 from michaelfolkson/add-sergei-lightning-privacy >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/ 08:41 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:43 -!- Hooloo42 [Hooloovoo@sorunome.de] has quit [Quit: Temporarily refracted into a free-standing prism.] 08:46 -!- Hooloovo0 [Hooloovoo@sorunome.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:59 -!- Hooloovo0 [Hooloovoo@sorunome.de] has quit [Quit: Temporarily refracted into a free-standing prism.] 09:01 -!- Hooloovo0 [Hooloovoo@sorunome.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:05 < juul> .join ##dat 09:05 < juul> oops 09:06 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:07 -!- foxp2 [~foxp2@ec2-54-144-139-49.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Quit: \/\/] 09:10 -!- foxp2 [~foxp2@ec2-54-144-139-49.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:11 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nfkziavmbrokocua] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:48 -!- foxp2 [~foxp2@ec2-54-144-139-49.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Quit: \/\/] 10:09 -!- foxp2 [~foxp2@ec2-3-229-163-177.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:20 -!- ffranr [~ffranr@79-65-232-120.host.pobb.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:35 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-90-227.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:36 < juri_> nsh: write more haskell? ;) 11:08 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:11 < srk> ^^ 11:11 * srk compiling ghcjs 11:11 < srk> https://research.csiro.au/tsblog/sel4-raspberry-pi-3/ 11:12 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:54 < ffranr> 3 blocks to go... 12:04 -!- ffranr_ [~ffranr@79-65-232-120.host.pobb.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:07 -!- ffranr [~ffranr@79-65-232-120.host.pobb.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:22 -!- ffranr_ [~ffranr@79-65-232-120.host.pobb.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:39 < L29Ah> blocks go brrr 12:50 < nsh> but half as loudly 13:18 -!- ffranr_ [~ffranr@79-65-232-120.host.pobb.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:28 < ffranr_> Message in last block mined for 12.5 reward: NYTimes 09/Apr/2020 With $2.3T Injection, Fed's Plan Far Exceeds 2008 Rescue 13:28 -!- ffranr_ is now known as ffranr 13:29 < nsh> +1 13:45 -!- Codaraxis_ [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-90-227.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:49 < foxp2> I now expect a great message for block 839,999 13:49 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-90-227.oc.oc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:10 -!- foxp2 [~foxp2@ec2-3-229-163-177.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Quit: \/\/] 14:11 -!- indiebio [~quassel@2a05:d018:c1e:8d00:c473:4128:ae2d:2c36] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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