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01:36 < nmz787> kanzure: I wonder if the carrying capacity thing you're mentioning took into account people going crazy because of the population density being maddening, or if they just assume natural selection will do away with those folks
01:37 < nmz787> I've got almost half an acre and feel pretty boxed in
01:38 < nmz787> and my real estate plans usually involve a cross-reference with "dark sky finder"
01:45 < TMA> nmz787: generally, people do not need all that much space. in Kowloon walled city wikipedia reports that a typical unit was 23 m2 (250 sq ft)
03:27 < docl> I wonder what stops people from making arcologies yet?
03:28 < docl> some buildings are pretty big. still, what stops a whole city from being in a single building?
03:30 < TMA> docl: money, mostly -- there is insufficient demand for arcologies
03:34 < TMA> kowloon walled city was so densely populated precisely because it was ungoverned -- but the lack of government imposes a hard limit on the feasible project size
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03:38 < TMA> the project size will be in the "so big it usually falls" category
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06:32 < L29Ah> 11:37:35]<nmz787> I've got almost half an acre and feel pretty boxed in
06:32 < L29Ah> i've got almost 20m² and it's kinds ok
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06:35 < L29Ah> 13:28:05]<docl> some buildings are pretty big. still, what stops a whole city from being in a single building?
06:35 < L29Ah> dunno, some people want to cheap out and use sunlight to keep their dwellings lit and look out of their windows to check out the beautiful towers and lines of commieblocks like theirs; in .ru the building code requires windows in apartments and residential houses also
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20:07 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/davidasinclair/status/1270037664885084163
20:07 < saxo> The Conboy lab reports the ability of young blood transfusions to reverse 🐭 aging is mimicked by a simple replacement of blood with a neutral age fluid [saline + 5% albumin] with benefits in muscle, liver, and new brain cell formation (image)💪#aging https://tinyurl.com/y7y9eqmh https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaAUYN8XYAIFCEC.jpg (@davidasinclair)
20:08 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/amyneurons/status/1268227523986575361
20:08 < saxo> My fly brain animation won 3rd place in the @NIH @USBrainAlliance Show Us Your Brains contest! // See the awesome 1st and 2nd place winners here: https://bit.ly/2BoLhuQ // @maxon3d #cinema4d + @OTOY / Data @SebastianSeung @MurthyLab @PrincetonNeuro @HHMIJanelia #studybrain https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1268225886572228610/pu/pl/K-6FGiSzL5mbrL7S.m3u8?tag=10 (@amyneurons)
20:10 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/BhanNamita/status/1267538749992337409
20:10 < saxo> I have a poster up titled: "Recording temporal data onto DNA with minutes resolution", poster no. MNA8. I know we are far from making DNA polymerase-based recordings in brains, but will be happy to discuss the possibilities with anyone interested. #studyBRAIN @USBrainAlliance (@BhanNamita, in reply to tw:1267463671564898304)
20:12 < fenn> so, leeches?
20:12 < fenn> plus a hearty flagon of beer to recover lost blood volume
20:20 < fenn> shouldn't we see an increase in life expectancy for blood donors if this worked?
20:22 < L29Ah> i expect blood donors to have an increased life expectancy because only healthy people want and are allowed to be blood donors
20:23 < L29Ah> also i wonder why the replacement was made at all, it's fishy
20:24 < L29Ah> > we replaced half of the plasma in mice
20:24 < L29Ah> oh that's why
20:25 < fenn> plasma donors, not blood donors
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20:25 < L29Ah> probably plasma contains a shitload of SHIT that misregulates everything
20:26 < fenn> yes that's the theory
20:28 < L29Ah> https://sciencenordic.com/body-death-denmark/frequent-blood-donors-live-longer/1425568
20:33 < L29Ah> couldn't find studies that reflect specifically plasma donorship
20:33 < kanzure> http://gnusha.org/logs/search/blood-substitutes.log
20:33 < fenn> well it's some evidence at least
20:33 < fenn> thanks
20:36 < fenn> http://gnusha.org/logs/2018-06-21.log relevant
20:38 < fenn> oh i guess you wouldn't need blood cells from an external source if you're just getting rid of the plasma
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20:52 < nmz787> TMA: I was quite close to buying 80 acres with like 5 outbuildings (aka barns) and a house a few months ago.. but my wife didn't like the house :/
20:52 < nmz787> TMA: it
20:52 < nmz787> TMA: it's less about need, and more about want really
20:53 < nmz787> I'm simply annoyed that I can see neighbors, and that they can see me... I am annoyed that I can hear cars driving on the street 1000ft away, I don't like the light pollution from all the other citizens and the businesses and the city streetlights
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