--- Log opened Fri Jun 26 00:00:01 2020 00:12 -!- Codaraxis__ [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-90-227.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:15 -!- Codaraxis_ [Codaraxis@gateway/vpn/mullvad/codaraxis] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:39 -!- Codaraxis_ [Codaraxis@gateway/vpn/mullvad/codaraxis] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:43 -!- Codaraxis__ [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-90-227.oc.oc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:09 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:09 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@xdsl-188-155-56-253.adslplus.ch] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:20 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:22 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:12 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@xdsl-188-155-56-253.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 02:17 -!- HumanGeek [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:35 -!- HumanGeek [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:24 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@xdsl-188-155-56-253.adslplus.ch] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:39 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@xdsl-188-155-56-253.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 04:49 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@xdsl-188-155-56-253.adslplus.ch] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:26 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:29 < kanzure> looks like there's a lot of works derivative of "De novo DNA synthesis using polymerase-nucleotide conjugates" since i last looked: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=13477935498039776225&as_sdt=5,44&sciodt=0,44&hl=en 06:00 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:05 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:05 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-acfwilngmpymprpm] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:21 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@xdsl-188-155-56-253.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 06:23 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=3ec51f2b Michael Folkson: Add Tim Ruffing on Schnorr multisig at London Bitcoin Devs >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/london-bitcoin-devs/2020-06-17-tim-ruffing-schnorr-multisig/ 06:23 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=fce09b85 Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #121 from michaelfolkson/add-tim-ruffing-multisig >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/ 06:26 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/1276507065947742209 06:26 -!- HumanGeek [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:26 < saxo> Transcript: Tim Ruffing @real_or_random on "Taproot and Schnorr multisignatures" https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/london-bitcoin-devs/2020-06-17-tim-ruffing-schnorr-multisig/ @LDNBitcoinDevs @pwuille @Blockstream ty @michaelfolkson && @btctranscripts (@kanzure) 06:29 < kanzure> iGEM mentorship application form https://2020.igem.org/Teams/Mentorship - in case any of you want to serve as a mentor to some iGEM teams... 06:41 -!- HumanGeek [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:41 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1276009719933489152 06:41 < saxo> We haven't made the emotional case for technology. // The assumption behind sci-fi like Black Mirror is that the present is ok, but tech may make the future dystopian. // But perhaps the present is dystopian and tech is our only hope for a positive future. (@balajis) 06:41 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/micsolana/status/1276273167728652289 06:41 < saxo> a lot of you seem to have forgotten the goal is immortality (@micsolana) 06:41 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/micsolana/status/1276344377363755009 06:41 < saxo> ppl keep yelling at me about kids. "why do you think we have children?" um, because they say funny things and have cute little googly eyes? love kids, they should be immortal too. next stupid question. https://twitter.com/micsolana/status/1276273167728652289 (@micsolana) 06:43 < kanzure> .title https://github.com/google/skywater-pdk 06:43 < saxo> GitHub - google/skywater-pdk: Open source process design kit for usage with SkyWater Technology Foundry's 130nm node. 06:43 < kanzure> "The SkyWater Open Source PDK is a collaboration between Google and SkyWater Technology Foundry to provide a fully open source Process Design Kit and related resources, which can be used to create manufacturable designs at SkyWater’s facility." [at 130nm node capability] 06:43 -!- HumanGeek [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:44 < kanzure> "things that people have done with 130nm" https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sMmoCfS5l6Uz8sl9Bk3R32XtsdZmC1Hw6bY9nm6r-PA/edit 06:45 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:46 < kanzure> https://hackaday.com/2020/06/25/creating-a-custom-asic-with-the-first-open-source-pdk/ 06:52 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:52 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:58 < kanzure> "Super-resolution localization microscopy: Toward high throughput, high quality, and low cost" https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0011731 07:00 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/bradtheilman/status/1276166948682731520 07:00 < saxo> An important distinction I see myself and others sometimes forget: // We never *measure* firing rates. We *estimate* them, usually by counting spikes. // Rates aren't what exists, only the spikes exist. (@bradtheilman) 07:03 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:28 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@172.58.19.191] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:33 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:40 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:13 < kanzure> ok, here's my mistake, sequencing by synthesis does not involve a single fluorophore observation, it's an aggregated fluorescence observation from many dna molecules getting sequenced in parallel with the assumption being that the polymerases are all in lockstep 09:37 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:39 < mrdata> quite an assumption 09:41 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:42 < kanzure> well that's why the read lengths are short in sequencing-by-synthesis 09:53 -!- justan0theruser 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