--- Log opened Mon Jul 20 00:00:25 2020 00:16 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:31 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:58 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@unaffiliated/l29ah] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 01:07 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@unaffiliated/l29ah] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:18 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@unaffiliated/l29ah] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Disconnected: closed"] 01:28 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@apoitiers-657-1-183-118.w92-134.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:40 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@unaffiliated/l29ah] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:55 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@unaffiliated/l29ah] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Disconnected: Replaced by new connection"] 02:11 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@2001:171b:c9ab:8170:f56e:fb68:b894:e88d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:12 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:17 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:09 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: TMA, jrayhawk, superkuh, Cory, darsie, Codaraxis_ 03:09 -!- odbw [~odb4@104.221.66.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: darsie, superkuh 03:10 -!- jrayhawk [~jrayhawk@unaffiliated/jrayhawk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Codaraxis_ 03:10 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: TMA 03:10 -!- Codaraxis_ [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-90-227.oc.oc.cox.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 03:11 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 03:13 -!- Codaraxis_ [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-90-227.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:18 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:20 -!- Codaraxis__ [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-90-227.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:23 -!- Codaraxis_ [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-90-227.oc.oc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:55 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@2001:171b:c9ab:8170:f56e:fb68:b894:e88d] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 04:05 -!- odbw [~odb4@104.221.66.247] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:13 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:17 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:50 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@unaffiliated/l29ah] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:09 -!- odb2 [~odb4@104.221.66.247] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:10 -!- odbw [~odb4@104.221.66.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:14 -!- odb2 [~odb4@104.221.66.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:24 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@2001:171b:c9ab:8170:40e9:2682:c291:8cb6] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:36 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@2001:171b:c9ab:8170:40e9:2682:c291:8cb6] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 06:19 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1284913201205764096 06:19 < saxo> Life extension is the most important technology we can invent. To get there, we must build the infrastructure to tirelessly evangelize for technological progress. / https://balajis.com/the-purpose-of-technology (@balajis) 06:19 < kanzure> https://balajis.com/the-purpose-of-technology/ 06:20 < kanzure> i don't think making movies is going to help, balaji 06:27 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/1285204660534599680 06:27 < saxo> @balajis I need a substantially more detailed argument for why "make media" is likely to result in the technological changes I want. // As it stands, I am not so sure that making movies will bring this about. What's the evidence? // Wouldn't it be better for folks like me to build? (@kanzure, in reply to tw:1284913201205764096) 06:30 < juri_> working the problem every day is how you solve problems. when presented with such a potentially life saving technology, any act other than trying to make it happen is an immoral act. 06:33 < kanzure> yeah but the effectiveness of "making a self-aggrandizing movie" vs actually working on a thing is quite different 06:33 < kanzure> and i'm not convinced movie > build 06:52 < L29Ah> i'm not convinced movie < build 06:52 < L29Ah> esp if you're a good deputy director and crappy biologist 06:53 < L29Ah> hardcore life extensionism and associated hardships are underrepresented in popular fiction 06:57 < juri_> it does depend what your skillset is. 06:57 < juri_> I'm not a biologist.. so i stay as close as i can, within my field. 07:20 * L29Ah doesn't know whether his skillset is relevant at timescales involved 07:26 * lsneff doesn’t have a skillset 07:27 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:27 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:35 < lsneff> For one, I believe that creating media that points the limelight on life-extension would be a good thing. 07:35 < lsneff> That is, unless those who wanted to life forever were the villains. 07:37 < L29Ah> https://www.lifespan.io/road-maps/the-rejuvenation-roadmap/ this one? 07:43 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@172.58.22.168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:56 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@2001:171b:c9ab:8170:a9ba:e7d1:8403:5903] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:14 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:14 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:14 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@2001:171b:c9ab:8170:a9ba:e7d1:8403:5903] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Fake intelligence may be dominant over real intelligence in many domains. (@anderssandberg) 20:00 < kanzure> "An Early Eocene gecko from Baltic amber and its implications for the evolution of gecko adhesion" https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-zoology/article/an-early-eocene-gecko-from-baltic-amber-and-its-implications-for-the-evolution-of-gecko-adhesion/73F50F9FBBC84BBECE0ABDF710866A1A 20:00 < kanzure> 54 million year old gecko 20:01 < kanzure> https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bip-8-bip-9-or-modern-soft-fork-activation-how-bitcoin-could-upgrade-next 20:04 < kanzure> https://longevitymarketcap.com/ 20:09 < kanzure> "Spider webs as eDNA tool for biodiversity assessment of life's domains" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.18.209999v1 20:10 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1284901474833625088 20:10 < saxo> The tree of technology must be refreshed from time to time with the disruption of incumbents! (@balajis, in reply to tw:1284901173300846593) 20:33 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zpzyxxlmdxngfgki] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:44 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@172.58.22.168] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:02 -!- odbw [~odb4@104.221.66.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:45 < L29Ah> > real intelligence 22:53 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:54 < fenn> no, real real intelligence, of the real kind, the kind with Consciousness(tm) 22:55 < fenn> if it doesn't have a ballsack it's not real intelligence 23:00 < L29Ah> are there projects that address the problem of error-prone DNA replication in humans? 23:37 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Tue Jul 21 00:00:26 2020