--- Log opened Fri Aug 14 00:00:49 2020
01:58 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
01:59 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
02:01 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap
02:12 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap
02:15 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
06:10 -!- nikivi [~nikivi@nikivi.powered.by.lunarbnc.net] has quit [Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net]
06:12 -!- nikivi [~nikivi@nikivi.powered.by.lunarbnc.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
06:23 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=0ce68d03 Michael Folkson: Add Kalle workshop on Signet >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/advancing-bitcoin/2020/2020-02-07-kalle-alm-signet-workshop/
06:23 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=236c43db Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #145 from michaelfolkson/add-kalle-workshop >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/
06:27 < kanzure> okay so, elon is gonna go get some of that asteroid gold
06:27 < kanzure> which can potentially crash various markets
06:28 < kanzure> the obvious supervillainous play would be to sell nuclear strike capability to go break up those asteroids to protect supply scarcity
07:04 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@172.58.19.40] has joined ##hplusroadmap
07:48 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zppqsudxaxvijett] has joined ##hplusroadmap
08:16 < Urchin[emacs]> you can't really haul in enough gold in early missions realistically to crash markets
08:16 < Urchin[emacs]> making gold cheaper would be cool in several ways
08:17 < Urchin[emacs]> like, more energy efficient eletcronics, or even power cables if cheap enough
08:17 < L29Ah> > Global production of gold reached approximately 3,300 metric tons in 2019.
08:35 -!- Darius [~darius@2605:a601:ab41:9e00:c416:b982:235:72ec] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:36 -!- Darius [~darius@2605:a601:ab41:9e00:c416:b982:235:72ec] has joined ##hplusroadmap
08:41 -!- mrdata_ is now known as mrdata
08:41 -!- Urchin[emacs] is now known as Nukular
08:41 -!- Nukular is now known as Urchin[emacs]
09:04 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@ec2-3-211-34-208.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
09:07 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-40-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
09:15 -!- Darius [~darius@2605:a601:ab41:9e00:c416:b982:235:72ec] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
09:19 -!- Darius [~darius@136.49.217.170] has joined ##hplusroadmap
09:48 < lsneff> Well, what's the starship max earth landing capacity?
09:50  * L29Ah throws slabs of gold at lsneff with his solar-powered mass driver
09:52 < lsneff> Deorbiting big chucks of gold isn't going to work too well
09:53 < lsneff> I'm trying to think if there's some way to deorbit something really large and massive in a controlled-enough manner to not cause a crater
09:54 < lsneff> If you could be really precise, it might be possible to drop objects into a sort of "reverse coilgun"
09:54 < L29Ah> attach a parachute
09:54 < lsneff> Yeah, that's not going to work for something that massive
09:54 < lsneff> Well, sure do it a bunch of times I guess
09:56 < L29Ah> who do you pay taxes to when you mine gold in space?
09:56 < lsneff> God
09:56 < L29Ah> ah, God's particles come to collect the tax!
09:57 < lsneff> Even a parachute gets complicated, you need to control descent enough not to burn up your container that has a parachute, and you need to have straps all around it to keep the parachute attached.
09:58 < lsneff> I'm thinking you'd need some serious active control from vernier thrusters
09:59 < L29Ah> no need for straps, just cast your gold over a frame
09:59 < lsneff> Oh, good point
09:59 < lsneff> I was thinking just dropping the ore
09:59 < lsneff> A heatshield too
09:59 < L29Ah> no need to control descent, just shape your chunk that it would stabilize itself in the atmo to proceed in nose-first
10:00 < lsneff> Good point, if you cast it, you can make it self stabilize
10:01 < lsneff> You might want to just make things in space anyhow
10:02 < lsneff> Use gigahertz sound to assemble structures at the nanoscale in zg
10:23 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-40-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
10:26 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@ec2-52-202-219-151.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
10:27 < Darius> skyhooks.
10:29 < Darius> spinning tethers in orbit. payload down attaches at top, released at bottom. the skyhook is orbited up slightly in the process. so you have it grab a launch payload at the bottom and release at the top: you're launching mass into space for free, if in balance with payloads down to earth.
10:29 < Darius> as usual, the question is how to economically bootstap this.
10:30 < kanzure> blowing it up seems easier
11:43 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-103-159-2.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
11:44 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-103-159-2.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
11:45 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
11:51 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@unaffiliated/l29ah] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
11:53 -!- hehelleshin is now known as helleshin
12:09 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@unaffiliated/l29ah] has joined ##hplusroadmap
12:13 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@unaffiliated/l29ah] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
12:16 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@unaffiliated/l29ah] has joined ##hplusroadmap
12:21 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@unaffiliated/l29ah] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
12:27 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap
12:27 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@unaffiliated/l29ah] has joined ##hplusroadmap
12:55 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@31.14.40.19] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.0 - https://znc.in]
12:57 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@31.14.40.19] has joined ##hplusroadmap
15:11 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@ec2-52-202-219-151.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
15:13 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-40-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
15:34 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:b1c6:53b6:8185:7ffc] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:13 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
16:29 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:30 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:45 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zppqsudxaxvijett] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
16:49 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:b1c6:53b6:8185:7ffc] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:15 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
18:51 < kanzure> https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/how-close-are-we-to-making-babies-from-bone-marrow
18:54 < L29Ah> but how close are we to making bone marrow from babies?
19:58 -!- redlegion [sid429547@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qslnlskcbrtckzpq] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
20:00 -!- redlegion [sid429547@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nfmytimzoerxmtsc] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:07 -!- redlegion [sid429547@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nfmytimzoerxmtsc] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20:10 -!- MarkOtaris is now known as less
20:12 -!- redlegion [sid429547@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-npritrzxtiwgnpdc] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:22 -!- redlegion [sid429547@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-npritrzxtiwgnpdc] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
20:24 -!- redlegion [sid429547@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gqwwihhkajovdgow] has joined ##hplusroadmap
21:00 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@172.58.19.40] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
21:05 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-40-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
21:08 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-40-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
21:13 -!- fox2p_ [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-40-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
21:13 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-40-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
21:16 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-40-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
21:17 -!- fox2p_ [~fox2p@cpe-66-108-40-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
22:27 -!- less is now known as MarkOtaris
--- Log closed Sat Aug 15 00:00:49 2020