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07:27 < lsneff> Internet's back up; level3 must have sorted out their network
08:34 < lsneff> .t http://www.skyhunter.com/marcs/GentleSeduction.html
08:34 < saxo> No title found
08:34 < lsneff> > First Published by Analog Magazine in 1989
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09:07 < L29Ah> n1
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11:46 < juri_> nmz787: I look around at normal people doing normal things. i don't have time for that.
11:48 < juri_> I swear, when i get a good backup and restore system, i'mm going .. to do something boring.
11:50 < L29Ah> like chatting in IRC?
12:20 < juri_> like trying to convince others that trying to change our mutual grizzly fates is worthwhile.
12:27  * fenn roars and hauls a thrashing salmon out of the water
13:09 < fenn> another spacex starship hop attempt (T-10 minutes) http://youtu.be/Ky5l9ZxsG9M
13:10 < fenn> or maybe 7 minutes
13:13 < fenn> nevermind, looks like an abort
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14:35 < kanzure> JRobo: what's the best way to use multiple monitors?
14:35 < kanzure> er.. jrayhawk^
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15:03 < jrayhawk> what scale?
15:03 < kanzure> just a few
15:06 < jrayhawk> oh, so no specialized hardware, driver, or compositing requirements. sway plus application workplace assignment with "assign" is a paradigm i like.
15:14 < jrayhawk> sway's window layout engines are not quite as sophisticated as e.g. awesome or xmonad's, as of yet.
15:15 < jrayhawk> and sometimes there's compatibility issues, like OBS doesn't know how to capture wayland
15:15 < jrayhawk> but mostly a better experience than dealing with X11
15:22 < L29Ah> but xorg just works™
15:24 < L29Ah> the only problem with multimonitor xorg i'm aware of is toolkits failing to account for the dpi of the display they're drawing on, in case they vary // ppl tell qt deals with it correctly on wayland
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15:41 < jrayhawk> so long as you don't care about security, timing, scheduling pressure, or having to deal with tradeoffs between performance/framebuffer migration/compatibility
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15:49 < jrayhawk> the fact that i can choose only two of RANDR, RANDR-provided xinerama protocol extensions, and multi-screen support, and all the window managers still do CRTC reckoning in terms of xinerama is absolutely infuriating
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15:56 < jrayhawk> fortunately, rather than continuing to blow 100+ hours on getting X11 to behave in an even vaguely sane manner, wayland manages to work so much better than I can conceptualize that it is indistinguishable from magic to me
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17:24 < lsneff> Memory implants when
17:26 < L29Ah> when you want it
17:27 < fenn> i don't think anybody knows how to make a memory implant yet
17:27 < L29Ah> get ready for sending twitches and receiving shocks
17:27 < L29Ah> as a method of communication with your new memory
17:27 < L29Ah> also powering the thing is a PITA
17:49 < L29Ah> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XgdO0q-s5Q&list=PL2iuzquEBcvqKMQpwgdkriem_11fEbp3Z i wonder if it's cherry picking or paramotors are quite good at not crashing w/o seriously wrong inputs
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18:34 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=829546d6 Michael Folkson: Add August Sydney Socratic >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/sydney-bitcoin-meetup/2020-08-25-socratic-seminar/
18:34 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=32fc1f24 Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #151 from michaelfolkson/add-sydney-socratic-august >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/
18:38 < kanzure> "The danger of DIY vaccines" https://science.sciencemag.org/content/369/6507/1035
18:39 < kanzure> https://realscreen.com/2020/08/26/pbs-nova-to-broadcast-crispr-documentary-human-nature/
18:48 < yashgaroth> amazed they can write a whole article titled "the danger of DIY vaccines" and not provide a single argument supporting said title...instead they just complain that some people won't trust whatever vaccine(s) come about, which would happen independently of any DIY effort
20:01 < kanzure> yep
20:01 < kanzure> "scientists" love to complain
20:50 < lsneff> Do any of you have investing advice? I realized I should put my savings to use.
20:52 < L29Ah> buy ETF if you like taxes and bitcoin if not
20:53 < L29Ah> btw i'm considering doing yearly full body MRI, sounds like a good investment
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20:58 < lsneff> I don't really trust bitcoin, its volatility scares me
20:59 < lsneff> An annual mri is probably a good idea. Good luck getting insurance to pay for it though
21:00 < L29Ah> sure no insurance will pay for that, but it's around $1k out of pocket here so certainly manageable
21:01 < lsneff> Oh, that's not bad
21:02 < L29Ah> there are cancer-oriented offerings starting from $150 but it feels fishy
21:02 < L29Ah> s/cancer-/&screening-/
21:02 < lsneff> 1k isn't very expensive for something like that
21:03 < lsneff> I'm trying to decide if I should invest all my savings (well, 90% or so) in a diversified manner, or if I should just do a monthly deposit sort of thing.
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