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01:24 < archels> 3-phase brushless motor position control http://itfromb.it/temp/VID-20200928-WA0006.mp4
01:25 < archels> next step: add an IR reflectance sensor so it can find its home position
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01:36 < adlai> since medium.com is a repeat offender in the "dynamic javascript bolus masquerading as static digestive biscuit" category, I now link a snapshot of the article linked recently:
01:36 < adlai> .title http://archive.is/U8G2s
01:36 < saxo> Attention Required!
01:37 < adlai> ... "Lab-Made? SARS-CoV-2 Genealogy Through the Lens of Gain-of-Function Research" by Yuri Deigin ; most recently linked here by yashgaroth, on 2020-09-15
01:38 < adlai> the specific archived copy that I linked, /U8G2s , contains the two updates that are currently visible in the dynamic site.
01:42 < adlai> apparently, there is now a "covid-19 API", although the documentation that I read suggests that it only descends to national resolution.
01:43  * adlai wrote one email to the Israeli health ministry, requesting a data endpoint to save the trouble of ripping data out of their 'dashboard' subdomain ; so far, silence.
01:45 < adlai> the only marginally defensible justification that I can spontaneously strawman into existence, when wondering why such data is not published, is "don't worry your pretty little head about it", although I personally don't find this a satisfactory reason.
01:49  * adlai finds that his "did anyone actually internalize _The Selfish Gene_, rather than just buying, flipping through, and shelving?" alarm bells ring to the point of fracture quite early on in Yuri Deigin's article
01:50 < adlai> for purposes of steelmanning the author, I blame this on the article being written for public consumption, rather than any specific fault of the author
01:53 < adlai> finally, something interesting: [a quote from Yuri's article, rather than the ones that he quotes] "How did the researchers obtain those pangolins? They were confiscated from smugglers by Chinese customs and transferred to an animal rehab center in Guangdong, where they died while exhibiting severe coronavirus symptoms. This, of course, must have gotten the attention of local virologists, who took
01:53 < adlai> several samples"
01:54 < adlai> if I may mix metaphors from the cyborg health industry: this is a wonderful way to 'integration test', and a terrible way to 'unit test'.
01:56 < adlai> it is probably difficult to get an ethics committee to approve sending virologists along with the smugglers, although that does not mean that the grantwriters shouldn't aim for such accurate sampling.
01:57 < adlai> e.g., journalists routinely go undercover with terrorists ; is it so delusional to expect the occasional field biologist to take similar levels of personal risk ?
02:06  * adlai chuckles at Medium's "64 min read" estimate... it's been two weeks and I still haven't "read" the article
02:07 < adlai> fortunately, the author has done quite a good job at writing a skimmable piece, within the constraints imposed by the publication medium [ pun intended !]
02:10  * adlai wonders how large is the zoonotic reservoir encompassing species existing entirely in captivity
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02:11 < adlai> additionally, whether any units exist for estimating (or worse, measuring) such a reservoir; merely counting species, despite how popular this approach is with my favorite popularizer of evolutionary biology, is utterly and completely useless.
02:12 < adlai> kg of biomass is a sane default.
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02:47 < fenn> livestock is most of the mammalian biomass already
02:47 < fenn> http://xkcd.com/1338/
02:48 < fenn> "Earth's Land Mammals By Weight"
02:49 < fenn> might as well lump humans into the "in captivity" category
03:26  * adlai considers humans the captors ; so [eukaryotic] biomass splits into feral, captors, captive, and unclear, where e.g. dogs guarding a biological research facility fall under unclear, since they can probably hybridize with feral wolves
03:29 < adlai> 'the' is possibly excessive emphasis, although omitting it from my previous line changes the implications, and that word was included intentionally.
03:31 < adlai> .wik capture myopathy
03:31 < saxo> "In medicine, myopathy is a disease of the muscle in which the muscle fibers do not function properly. This results in muscular weakness." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_myopathy
03:32 < adlai> who operates saxo? that is a false positive, since wikipedia's redirected article is at best unhelpful for the original query.
03:37 < adlai> "There are several situations that can cause capture myopathy. These include trapping, capture, transport and even simple restraint. In other words - humans cause this condition! However, it is also used successfully as a hunting tool by large carnivores such as dogs." courtesy of https://ozwildlife.org/myopathy.php
03:39 < adlai> a reasonably polite, possibly even vegan-friendly, definition of the condition itself is "non-infectious disease of wild and domestic animals in which muscle damage results from extreme exertion, struggle, or stress. CM often occurs as a result of chemical immobilization, capture, or transport, but it is not always associated with capture and can be the result of other causes of stress." [from
03:39 < adlai> https://www.pgc.pa.gov/Wildlife/Wildlife-RelatedDiseases/Pages/CaptureMyopathy.aspx ]
03:45 < adlai> http://www.myolab.co.za/research/exercise-induced-patholology/capture-myopathy/ seems to summarize the condition's relevance to humans of unclear ferality
03:45 < TMA> I have always thought that feral != wild ; that the condition to be feral is to have domesticated history/ancestors
03:56 < adlai> although you are correct, I consider the 'anthropocene' to have effectively driven true wildness extinct.
04:00 < adlai> considering an alien enclosure as the captor, or personifying gravity itself, both seem slightly laughable extremes, so I'm sticking to the designation of humans as the primary captors, and other organisms as ranging from full captivity (e.g., a rejected embryo in an IVF facility, queued for destruction), to maximal independence (e.g., archaeobacteria in a deep-sea vent)
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04:12  * adlai sadly notes that the words 'intron' and 'exon' are both absent from Yuri Deigin's article
04:14 < adlai> maybe "64 min read" is just for parsing the text, plus 1k words per picture, without accounting for dereferencing each image's OCR complexity
04:22  * adlai saves a pdf of this article, with the useless photographs of humans, smiling or otherwise, excised ; might actually read the damn thing sometime before the anniversary of 'patient zero'
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05:19 < adlai> another plausibly interesting link, from just before I yelled the safeword for IRC spam (hint: it rhymes with 'blunt fist'), was the Reddit IAmA thread with id /is5qrd/ ; does anyone have a reasonably effective service for downloading fulltext of reddit comment threads, or should that thread just go in the "untapped metastable nuclear waste" bunker?
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08:39 < docl> lsneff: this one? https://charted.space/notes/Rotating%20Neon%20Pump.mp4
08:39 < lsneff> Yes
08:39 < docl> did you do it in atom cad?
08:41 < lsneff> The design is an old pdb from the IMM
08:43 < lsneff> The software is atom cad
08:45 < lsneff> I haven't gotten the "cad" part working yet haha, still trying to figure out what the user experience should be like for that.
08:50 < docl> are you targeting pc, smartphone, or both?
08:50 < docl> it's a browser app, so I imagine it works on either?
08:52 < docl> ah here's the github https://github.com/AtomCAD/atomCAD
08:53 < lsneff> That's an older source, I haven't uploaded the current code.
08:53 < lsneff> It's targeting desktop, web, and tablet.
08:54 < lsneff> The technology choices I've made enable it to cross-compile to about anything.
08:54 < docl> nice!
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09:43 < docl> .title https://sci-hub.se/10.1021/acsnano.8b03513
09:43 < saxo> Sci-Hub | Supramolecular Assemblies on Surfaces: Nanopatterning, Functionality, and Reactivity. ACS Nano | 10.1021/acsnano.8b03513
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13:03 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/bryan_johnson/status/1310990731360628736
13:03 < saxo> Announcing Kernel Flow 50! // Q1 2021, the first 50 Kernel Flow brain interfaces available for select partners! // Join for a special introduction to our state-of-the-art TD-fNIRS system. Learn about the frontier of portable, at-home neuroscience. Get access http://kernel.co https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjGPW09UcAA6VyP.jpg (@bryan_johnson)
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13:39 < lsneff> .t https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/climate/nuclear-fusion-reactor.html
13:39 < saxo> nuclear-fusion-reactor
13:40 < lsneff> "Compact Nuclear Fusion Reactor Is ‘Very Likely to Work,’ Studies Suggest"
13:42 < L29Ah> less than sun = compact
13:43 < L29Ah> tl;dr: Sparc takes advantage of a newer electromagnet technology that uses so-called high temperature superconductors that can produce a much higher magnetic field, Dr. Greenwald said. As a result, the plasma is much smaller.
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14:16 < lsneff> Compact compared to ITER as well.
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17:43 < kanzure> hmm
18:01 < docl> hmm
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