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05:07 < L29Ah> 07:34:26]<fenn> on the other hand, why don't we have such laws already?
05:07 < L29Ah> because the lawmakers themselves are at a loss from such a law, so it will never get up in the mainstream "democracies"
05:21 < fenn> this was being seriously proposed as an alternative to verifiable leaked emails
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06:01 < kanzure> jrayhawk: why would they stop admitting video evidence when they haven't stopped admitting photographic evidence?
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07:03 < kanzure> andytoshi: my quick hack for opentimestamps has always been to just hash files on my own and timestamp the hash
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08:52 < andytoshi> oh lol that's clevel
08:52 < andytoshi> clever
08:56 < kanzure> which isn't to say it can't also just read files from the local directory and send that data anyway
08:56 < kanzure> but for some reason it makes me feel better
08:57 < andytoshi> i mean, ultimately you're running python code that came from github .. it's pretty hard for that to be screwy in ways that wouldn't raise a lot of alarm bells
08:58 < andytoshi> covertly leaking unhashed data, that's plausible enough if petertodd or someone was malicious. the logic is pretty hard to follow and uses a lot of metaprogramming
08:58 < andytoshi> but accessing unrelated files would be hard to hide :P
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09:40 < nsh> associate important file locations with tiny speakers all around your workspace with distict noises and use kernel instrumentation to give an audio clue as to what's being accessed/modified
09:41 < nsh> brain will learn to filter out but will unfilter when weird things happen
09:41 < nsh> sailors will wake up when engines make unusual noises
09:41 < nsh> etc.
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10:19 < lsneff> .tw https://twitter.com/rikarends/status/1328598935380910082
10:19 < saxo> It's hard to believe, a hot running fan blasting i9 loses by a factor 2 in a real world Rust compile from a passively cooled M1 macbook air. This has consequences. (@rikarends)
10:22 < lsneff> It's quite surprising how well performing the M1 chip is. I wonder what this means for Intel long-term.
10:34 < archels> and what it means for AMD long-term. How invested are they in x86 (amd64)?
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10:39 < lsneff> Well, until apple starts making desktop-sized processors (or starts putting 4 or 8 of them on a single board), AMD will be fine. But at that point, I'm not sure.
10:39 < lsneff> Apple would never do this, but they could potentially sell the processors by themselves.
10:40 < archels> yah, agreed that they'll never do this. license them at most
10:41 < lsneff> I think this will, at the very least, drive AMD and intel towards on-chip memory.
10:42 < lsneff> Maybe even on-die memory at some point
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10:46 < archels> that seems to be the main driver behind performance here, but wasn't stacking memory and processing dies already par for the course on embedded (say, smartphone) platforms?
10:48 < lsneff> Nope, as far as I know, stacking memory and cpu dies still isn't mainstream anywhere. Some new intel cpus might have it, not sure.
10:48 < lsneff> In fact, the M1 doesn't have memory on-die, just on the same board.
10:48 < lsneff> board/chip
11:01 < archels> package?
11:04 < lsneff> Sure, that sounds right. I wasn't sure what word to use.
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11:10 < fenn> all the rockchip android set top boxes use ram bonded directly to the cpu chip
11:11 < fenn> i got the impression it was common in phones
11:11 < fenn> it's annoying because it limits ram to 4GB (a single chip worth)
11:11 < lsneff> Ah, I didn't realize that.
11:12 < lsneff> I guess the high-end androids don't since they all seem to have 8 or 12 gigs these days.
11:12 < fenn> it's possible the size of a chip has gone up since i last looked at it (many years ago)
11:13 < fenn> 2015 ish
11:16 < lsneff> Looking on digikey, it seems like up to 64GB are sold in a single bga package.
11:16 < lsneff> oops, nvm that's nand
11:19 < lsneff> Okay, yeah, up to 24Gb on a single chip it seems
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12:13 < kanzure> "Ultimately large telescope" https://arxiv.org/abs/2007.02946
12:17 < kanzure> pharmacy api thing https://docs.truepill.com/
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15:43 < lsneff> .t https://www.crowdsupply.com/libre-risc-v/m-class/updates/
15:43 < saxo> Updates from Libre RISC-V M-Class | Crowd Supply
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