--- Log opened Tue Dec 01 00:00:32 2020
01:40 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamagedd@178235180063.dynamic-4-waw-k-4-0-0.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap
02:43 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap
02:45 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:26 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:27 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@c-24-118-172-137.hsd1.wi.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
04:27 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@c-24-118-172-137.hsd1.wi.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host]
04:27 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap
05:10 < archels> GPT-3 as a service https://shortlyread.com/
05:40 < Llamamoe> Are we just gonna live with cloud access to stuff only, from now on, with no other options?
05:51 < superkuh> You can live 10 years in the past.
05:52 < superkuh> It's much nicer.
05:52 < L29Ah> Llamamoe: what other options did you have for accessing google search database?
05:53 < Llamamoe> I'm not talking stuff like internet search, but nowadays literally everything is on the cloud
05:53 < L29Ah> i don't get what are you talking about
05:53 < Llamamoe> Nevermind.
05:53 < L29Ah> it always was a question of a policy of a concrete enterprise, today isn't different from yesterday
05:54 < L29Ah> also "nowadays literally everything is on the cloud" is just false
05:54 < L29Ah> so quit your fearmongering
05:55 < Llamamoe> It's a hyperbole, a useful construct
05:59 < L29Ah> if you're pissed about GPT-3, mind that it's a Microsoft product, and Microsoft is well known for its previous decisions of similar kind
06:00 < Urchin[emacs]> L29Ah: that's still nothing to stop somebody to be pissed off about it
06:02 < Llamamoe> I don't even mind this as much as I mind shit like networked login to phones, Windows PCs, voice recognition going through the cloud rather than at least handling recognition locally, more and more programs being available only with an internet connection, and so on
06:02 < L29Ah> Llamamoe: i hereby permit you to boycott these
06:03 < L29Ah> gladly the market is eager to offer you alternatives
06:03 < Llamamoe> The market is eager to do nothing other than profit from me, everything else is coincidental
06:03 < nsh> .title https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468067219300318
06:03 < saxo> Open source all-iron battery for renewable energy storage - ScienceDirect
06:04 < L29Ah> it's as coincidental as your choice of your benefactors
06:05 < Llamamoe> It does not matter what I choose, the world is not limited in size to me only
06:05 < Llamamoe> What matters is the trends and directions
06:06 < L29Ah> it does, as the world doesn't need an unanimous decision to steer
06:06 < Llamamoe> It does not seem as if you interpret my words correctly
06:06 < L29Ah> 17:05:29]<Llamamoe> What matters is the trends and directions
06:06 < L29Ah> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
06:08 < Llamamoe> Yeah, you do not understand what I said. I have not been very clear, so it's not your fault, but you deciding to put your own version in my mouth instead of asking me to clarify or ignoring it pisses me off
06:08 < Llamamoe> So forget it
06:08 -!- yonkunas [uid403824@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-txhafnvlkxowfbkb] has joined ##hplusroadmap
06:09 < Llamamoe> And yes, I am in fact in a bad mood today, so I'll apologize for that also
06:14 < Llamamoe> What I mean is the statistical mechanics of the change of things. The way systems and incentives shape the evolution of our world, and the way those trends further influence the future. Choices of individual people are what drives that change, but once you look at all 7.5B humans, it all reduces to statistics and individuality no longer plays a role in determining the future. THAT is why I care about trends and di
06:14 < Llamamoe> s, because they ultimately overshadow any individual decisionmaking
06:19 < Llamamoe> People tend to fixate on individuals, or on groups, or other collective entities, as they are easy to grasp, but in the end the only full picture is the abstract one of our world as a position in a high-dimensional space, with its evolution defined by the probability landscape described by its systems, both explicit(like capitalist economics) and implicit(like statistical behavior of interactions between people)
06:48 < kanzure> https://www.wealthsimple.com/en-ca/magazine/cobol-controls-your-money
06:49 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hblbdpalnpcpdpfr] has joined ##hplusroadmap
07:15 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=57b8f9e6 Bryan Bishop: socratic seminar >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/sf-bitcoin-meetup/2020-11-30-socratic-seminar-20/
07:20 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/thisismadani/status/1333481987903000577
07:20 < saxo> #Alphafold by #deepmind used solid interdisciplinary intuitions for algorithm/model design. It wasn't just a rinse-and-repeat machine learning exercise. Details on methods are limited, but here's my best interpretation (+some predictions) so far: [1/n] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoFZcXzWMAMoqLJ.jpg (@thisismadani)
07:23 < kanzure> https://deepmind.com/blog/article/alphafold-a-solution-to-a-50-year-old-grand-challenge-in-biology
07:24 < kanzure> https://github.com/dellacortelab/prospr
07:24 < kanzure> "Improved protein structure prediction using predicted interresidue orientations" https://www.pnas.org/content/117/3/1496
07:26 < kanzure> https://lilianweng.github.io/lil-log/2018/06/24/attention-attention.html
07:55 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hgwyhuonvpwnvpru] has joined ##hplusroadmap
08:13 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap
08:54 < nsh> --
08:54 < nsh> nm kanzure beat me
08:54 < nsh> (deepmind protein folding successes)
08:59 < L29Ah> lsneff beaten kanzure already
09:00 < lsneff> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3dQPCi14/2boy7j.jpg
09:46 < nsh> lol
10:14 -!- chico [~chico@2a02:2121:283:4590:bcdf:5caf:c5c9:e8d7] has joined ##hplusroadmap
10:36 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:502d:e3d6:69e1:2ce7] has joined ##hplusroadmap
10:46 -!- chico [~chico@2a02:2121:283:4590:bcdf:5caf:c5c9:e8d7] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:03 < lsneff> What's going on with eth today? Did it switch to PoS?
11:04 -!- chico [~chico@2a02:2121:283:4590:bcdf:5caf:c5c9:e8d7] has joined ##hplusroadmap
11:05 < superkuh> It didn't so much switch as spin off, right?
11:26 -!- chico [~chico@2a02:2121:283:4590:bcdf:5caf:c5c9:e8d7] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:26 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hblbdpalnpcpdpfr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
11:35 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hgwyhuonvpwnvpru] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
12:37 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdtoqtxupmxoesow] has joined ##hplusroadmap
13:41 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamagedd@178235180063.dynamic-4-waw-k-4-0-0.vectranet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
13:46 < lsneff> .t https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31901692/
13:46 < saxo> Ultrasound-activated particles as CRISPR/Cas9 delivery system for androgenic alopecia therapy - PubMed
13:46 < lsneff> Didn't know this was feasible
14:04 -!- AgenttiX [agenttix@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
14:22 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
14:27 -!- AgenttiX [agenttix@kapsi.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap
14:55 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdtoqtxupmxoesow] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
14:58 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-90-227.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
15:06 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0:10a1:8f8d:7416:fb3b] has joined ##hplusroadmap
15:10 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zinqnndhvxukpwqh] has joined ##hplusroadmap
15:20 -!- Sir_Alexei [uid348072@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wertqsurcdkbcval] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:07 -!- srk [~sorki@gateway/tor-sasl/sorki] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
16:16 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:502d:e3d6:69e1:2ce7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:21 -!- srk [~sorki@gateway/tor-sasl/sorki] has joined ##hplusroadmap
17:12 -!- Sir_Alexei [uid348072@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wertqsurcdkbcval] has quit []
17:28 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0:10a1:8f8d:7416:fb3b] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:36 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zinqnndhvxukpwqh] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
17:52 -!- MLVLVS [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:29 -!- srk [~sorki@gateway/tor-sasl/sorki] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
18:42 -!- srk [~sorki@gateway/tor-sasl/sorki] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:55 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xagevypdhjqwtgir] has joined ##hplusroadmap
19:01 < lsneff> .yt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOmdQnIlnRo
19:02 < lsneff> The starlink antennas appear to be extremely complex, and these are consumer products. The satellites must be technological black magic in comparison.
19:05 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap
19:25 < superkuh> It's a "reactive impedance surface" metasurface (the squares) to better isolate the circular patch (or mushroom?) antennas and then a suspended layer of director elements for both linear polarizations (which passes circular).
19:25 < superkuh> I'd like to see a cross section of the circular elements and where the feed is to be sure re: patch or mushroom.
19:28 < superkuh> I thought the actual antenna array would be *more* complex than it is.
19:28 < superkuh> I thought they'd try to do a tightly coupled dipole array because the FCC docs reported no squint vs freq even at high off-angles.
20:02 -!- srk [~sorki@gateway/tor-sasl/sorki] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:03 -!- srk [~sorki@gateway/tor-sasl/sorki] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:13 -!- MLVLVS is now known as ThermoDae
20:36 < lsneff> Oof, an internship application I'm looking at has actual engineering questions.
21:15 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
21:25 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xagevypdhjqwtgir] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
21:34 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
22:09 -!- ThermoDae is now known as Maledictis
22:34 -!- faceface [~faceface@unaffiliated/faceface] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:36 -!- lydian [~lydiancon@c-68-32-72-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
22:40 -!- lydian [~lydiancon@c-68-32-72-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"]
23:01 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap
23:05 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
23:06 -!- mrdata_ is now known as mrdata
23:24 -!- Maledictis is now known as ThermoDae
23:30 -!- ThermoDae is now known as MLVLVS
--- Log closed Wed Dec 02 00:00:33 2020