--- Log opened Wed Dec 16 00:00:47 2020 00:10 -!- fltrz [~fltrz@109.236.129.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:18 -!- fltrz [~fltrz@109.236.129.101] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:52 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamagedd@178235180200.dynamic-4-waw-k-4-0-0.vectranet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:39 < nmz787> fltrz: been using a TIA + ADC circuit here for some picoamp scale resolution stuff, with like +/- 250nA range, using LMP7721 02:39 < fltrz> nmz787, nice 02:40 < fltrz> what is it measuring? light signal? gammas? 02:40 < nmz787> nanopore stuff 02:40 < fltrz> oh yes 02:40 < fltrz> do you think using ADC as the feedback resistor is possible? 02:40 < nmz787> I am not analogy enough to intuit if what you're saying is workable 02:41 < nmz787> I've heard some circuits use a capacitor there, and have a charge neutralization reset circuit to reset the cap in lock-step 02:43 < fltrz> that sounds like it might be what I need for a different project, do you have some reference or keyword? or should I google just "charge neutralization capacitor op amp" 02:46 < nmz787> I only heard of it recently and can't remember if the mention included a specific reference, but fig 5 here looks like what I'm thinking https://www.scitepress.org/Papers/2014/47868/47868.pdf 02:47 < nmz787> https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/ivc102.pdf?ts=1608115627990&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F 02:47 < fltrz> also, off topic, but is it possible to change some chrome setting so that new tabs are opened immediately to the right of the current page instead of to the right of the last sub tab opened from the current page? I don't like how I have to swipe over "already seen but not yet wanted closed" pages, if it opened new tabs to immediate right of the current page it would allow to to inspect some of the opened pages, close some, keep others open, return 02:47 < fltrz> to "main page", open new tabs and then swipe to immediately see the new pages instead of heaving to swipe over the already seen pages 02:47 < nmz787> "The IVC102 is a precision integrating amplifier with FET op amp, integrating capacitors, and low leakage FET switches. It integrates low-level input current for a user-determined period, storing the resulting voltage on the integrating capacitor. The output voltage can be held for accurate measurement. The IVC102 provides a precision, lower noise alternative to conventional transimpedance op amp 02:47 < nmz787> circuits that require a very high value feedback resistor." 02:48 < fltrz> nmz787, thanks 02:56 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-103-159-2.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:57 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-103-159-2.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:03 < fenn> jurvetson seems to be getting interested in anti-aging 03:51 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:00 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:33 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@82-64-99-84.subs.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:35 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@82-64-99-84.subs.proxad.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:09 < fenn> a VC taking a posture against patents: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/49902233563/ 05:09 < fenn> i wouldn't quite call it "arguing" since it's mostly a quotation 05:09 < fenn> "there is no good evidence that patents are helpful, let alone necessary, in encouraging innovation." 06:03 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-trzokbgcvjiojzbe] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:16 < fenn> .tw http://twitter.com/willrop3r/status/1339209367262904320 07:16 < saxo> (1 of 2) NEW. For the first time, @usairforce put #AI safely in charge of a US military system. Call sign "Artuμ," we modified world-leading μZero gaming algorithms to operate the U-2's radar. This first AI copilot even served as mission commander on its seminal training flight! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpWe3SsVEAEM4vm.jpg (@WILLROP3R) 07:28 < andytoshi> lol, that's going to be as historic as bush's "mission accomplished" 07:38 < fenn> without a doubt the highest quality video footage of spacex starship SN8's launch, flop, and landing explosion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfMCApWc5xE 08:45 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-knqobjspsqbzforh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:59 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-48-202.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:17 -!- srk [~sorki@gateway/tor-sasl/sorki] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:36 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:38 -!- srk [~sorki@gateway/tor-sasl/sorki] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:47 < lsneff> .t https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4471-4510-3_7 09:47 < saxo> Compliant Mechanisms | SpringerLink 09:48 < lsneff> I'm trying to figure out if anyone's designed a PCB-based flexure hinges/compliant mechanisms. Does that ring a bell for any of you? 09:50 < L29Ah> just drill pcb incompletely and you get a thin layer of flexible fiberglass 09:51 < L29Ah> the remaining copper layer won't survive for long probably tho 09:51 < lsneff> from the strain? 09:52 < L29Ah> from repeated bending 09:53 < lsneff> Could mill the copper off 09:54 < L29Ah> well, if you don't need copper, why do you need PCB in the first place 09:56 < L29Ah> but anyway it's well doable, just mind that it sustains fatigue worse than metals, but still useful as lightweight springs 09:56 < lsneff> It's super cheap, and it opens the possibility of having actuators + the rest of the circuit soldered on it 09:57 < lsneff> I'll do some more investigation about fr4 fatigue, maybe other pcb materials would work better 09:57 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:28 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:39 -!- pompolic [~A@unaffiliated/pompolic] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:13 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:30 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-knqobjspsqbzforh] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 11:37 < abetusk> lsneff, there's this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhqDf9Qyx5M , though I don't think that's what you were asking for 11:44 < lsneff> It exactly, but that is interesting. 11:45 < archels> haha, thought of the same dude 11:45 < lsneff> s/It/not 11:47 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:49 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:53 < lsneff> My reason for asking was that I'm trying to figure out the cheapest way of making a 3dof micro-actuator. There are known ways, but they have downsides and aren't as flexible as I'd like. 12:00 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:05 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-trzokbgcvjiojzbe] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:11 < abetusk> lsneff: https://mems.ku.edu.tr/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Electromagnetically-actuated-FR4-scanners.pdf ? 12:12 < lsneff> abetusk: Ah, that's exactly what I'm looking for, thank you. 12:13 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:14 < lsneff> Quite a sparse paper, unfortunately. 12:17 < abetusk> There's also this: https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1757-899X/201/1/012016/pdf but I'm dubious as to the claim of 'energy harvesting'. I think the point is that you can do it by cutting out the appropriate geometry and then putting some electromagnets underneath to push and pull the different parts 12:21 < lsneff> Hmm, that is a little suspect, but agreed, the point is taken. 12:21 < lsneff> I'm not super happy with using electromagnetics, but maybe it'd be fine. 12:22 < lsneff> Once finals are over, I'll get some thin pcbs manufactured to see how they work in this context. 12:25 < lsneff> Hmm, looks like boards can be manufactured that are part flex and part rigid; might be useful. 13:45 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-48-202.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:46 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-48-202.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:30 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0:c58d:d15e:100e:b60d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:37 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:44 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-48-202.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:47 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:54 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:55 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:56 < lsneff> .t https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/isardl/why_dont_we_just_simply_emulate_a_super_fast/ 14:56 < saxo> Why don’t we just simply emulate a super fast computer, instead of using actual fast procesors? : emulation 14:59 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:00 < superkuh> Future apple engineer. 15:15 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:22 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:54 < lsneff> That user certainly does seem to like apple products 16:08 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:24 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: saxo 17:30 -!- Netsplit over, joins: saxo 17:42 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0:c58d:d15e:100e:b60d] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:16 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamagedd@178235180083.dynamic-4-waw-k-4-0-0.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:20 < L29Ah> .t https://twitter.com/justindchapman/status/1231336002175717376 18:20 < saxo> Mad Mike Hughes just launched himself in a self-made steam-powered rocket and crash landed. Very likely did not survive. #MadMike #MadMikeHughes https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1231335888459726848/pu/pl/fuskfxQryNE5vyUg.m3u8?tag=10 (@justindchapman) 18:20 < L29Ah> > Flat Earth conspiracy theorist and daredevil Mike Hughes dies in an attempt to get to space in a home built rocket 18:46 < kanzure> fenn: jurvetson is "one of us"; he was funding the transhumanism space as far back as the 90s 18:50 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:51 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:08 < Llamamoe> He made a mistake of trusting technology invented by the same people who invented the round earth theory 19:08 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:08 < Llamamoe> Should have used a flat rocket 19:12 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:54 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:01 -!- chico [~chico@2a02:2121:2c7:26f4:ed8f:1f44:d478:40d8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:52 < Urchin[emacs]> steam powered rockets have been suggested, and there were people working on them, but they're definitely not the usual choice in rocketry 23:34 -!- srk [~sorki@gateway/tor-sasl/sorki] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:37 -!- srk [~sorki@gateway/tor-sasl/sorki] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Thu Dec 17 00:00:48 2020