--- Log opened Mon Jan 04 00:00:05 2021 00:04 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-48-202.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:09 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:29 * L29Ah have pirated UpToDate 01:17 -!- filipepe_ [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xdbhbzkoqyrrtgpa] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:00 -!- amatz [~thavin@49.49.237.64] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:11 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:26 -!- filipepe_ [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xdbhbzkoqyrrtgpa] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 04:27 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0:dc38:9599:f203:8795] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:52 -!- docl_ is now known as docl 04:53 < preview> hi 04:56 < docl> hello preview 04:57 < preview> hi 05:08 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:19 < archels> they're now saying they're going to rebuild the Arecibo telescope? idiots 05:19 < archels> if they replaced the failing cables before everything came down, it probably would have cost 1-2 orders of magnitude less 05:57 < kanzure> amateurs https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25623010 05:57 < kanzure> .title 05:57 < saxo> I logged my activities at 15-minute intervals for the whole year | Hacker News 06:05 < L29Ah> why amateurs? 06:16 -!- sknebel_ is now known as sknebel 06:31 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:40 < kanzure> L29Ah: fenn was doing five minute intervals for a decade 06:41 < L29Ah> is there a beautiful pic? 06:42 < kanzure> http://fennetic.net/sleep/ 06:43 < fenn> i log the time when the activity changes 06:43 < fenn> "five minute intervals" isn't correct 06:43 < kanzure> whoops 06:46 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:46 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:51 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cosvgyixbjvwlxsz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:09 < fenn> L29Ah: https://www.lauriefrick.com/sleep-patterns has 2 art works derived rather straightforwardly from my data. she used to have more but i dunno where they went 07:10 < fenn> there were some dyed wooden blocks stacked together but i was never clear on whether it was randomly embellished or not, or whether it was even my data 07:47 < fenn> UK court denies extradition of Julian Assange to US (for now) 08:19 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@82-64-99-84.subs.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:21 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@82-64-99-84.subs.proxad.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:51 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@82-64-99-84.subs.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:02 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@82-64-99-84.subs.proxad.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:53 < lsneff> fenn: quantified self? 09:56 < fenn> ya 09:58 < fenn> back when it was hackers writing scripts 09:58 < fenn> somehow it became a "thing" 10:00 < fenn> now you can send your data straight to the NSA, no exfiltration required 10:00 < fenn> or whoever pays for it 10:06 < lsneff> why did you do it? 10:12 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-48-202.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:22 -!- sanehatter [sanehatter@gateway/vpn/mullvad/sanehatter] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:27 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:33 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:34 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamagedd@178235180025.dynamic-4-waw-k-4-0-0.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:52 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-48-202.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:53 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-48-202.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:17 < apotheon> I wouldn't have expected UK to deny extradition. 12:18 < apotheon> s/UK/the UK/ 12:22 < jrayhawk> a precedent might be more readily at hand than you think 12:29 < apotheon> okay 12:29 < apotheon> Do you care to share? 12:31 < jrayhawk> https://keybase.io/nsh 12:32 < apotheon> I'm less surprised by that, because of the significant difference in political visibility. 12:36 < jrayhawk> judicial independence is a remarkably powerful thing 12:43 < apotheon> hmm 12:44 < apotheon> It looks like Julian and Lauri have something in common related to their extradition refusals: 12:44 < apotheon> claims of mental health issues likely exacerbated by extradition 12:45 < apotheon> When you said precedent, I didn't expect it to mean that Julian Assange had directly copied a side-issue defense like that from the earlier case. 12:45 < apotheon> Unfortunately, taking that approach to defense doesn't do a whole lot to help other activists in general -- only those who can swing a mental health complication in court. 12:47 < jrayhawk> the U.S. has made defenses on humanitarian grounds pretty easy, what with extraordinary rendition and torture 12:49 -!- amatz [~thavin@49.49.237.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:50 < jrayhawk> nsh presumably has better-developed thoughts on that sort of defense than the rest of us at this point, though 12:51 < apotheon> good point, re: US torture policy 12:52 < apotheon> even better point, re: nsh 12:53 < fenn> no pressure 12:53 < apotheon> none at all 12:54 < apotheon> Whatever the defense, though, I fully understand wanting to do anything necessary to avoid extradition to the US. 12:54 < fenn> where can i sign up to be a pod person and have my soylent and oxygen delivered by pipeline 12:55 < fenn> i require 2 cubic meters of volume and 100W 12:55 < jrayhawk> japan probably has that by now 12:58 < apotheon> That actually sounds almost like a standard home-bound agoraphobe in Japan. 12:58 < apotheon> or demophobe, or both 12:59 < L29Ah> i'd prefer a framework for 20ft shipping container-houses that can be moved around and reconfigured on demand to adjust to demands of the social structures of the day 13:00 < L29Ah> got a new job/acquaintance/favorite shop? hire a slot for your container and get it moved and attached to the utilities 13:01 < apotheon> Figure out how to make that work on a case-by-case greymarket basis instead of a systemic whitemarket basis, and you've got Second Realm Strategy. 13:02 < apotheon> Of course, I'm not sure how my garage needs would be met by that framework. 13:03 < apotheon> Shipping containers have the significant downside of not providing much natural light, though -- and if you start giving them windows, you undermine the durability aspects of shipping container utility. 13:07 < fenn> they are also full of toxic antifungals and so on that have soaked into the floor boards 13:08 < fenn> fine for a workshop but i wouldn't want to sleep in it 13:08 -!- chico [~chico@2a02:2121:28d:63ee:456c:74bb:14ae:76c2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:09 < fenn> of course you can use new ones instead 13:09 < L29Ah> apotheon: who needs natural light anyway 13:09 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cosvgyixbjvwlxsz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 13:09 < L29Ah> with todays LEDs 13:09 < fenn> weren't we supposed to have "himawari" solar trackers to provide fiber optic lighting 13:10 < L29Ah> fenn: that's badass and efficient in the long run but a PITA to set up and maintain 13:10 < L29Ah> i'd prefer a robotic/pneumatic delivery service first ;] 13:11 < fenn> indeed 13:11 < fenn> the ummo did it, and so can we 13:12 < apotheon> Pneumatic . . . ? https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DuSDdJIcmHU/maxresdefault.jpg 13:13 < fenn> yes we can 13:13 < fenn> can deliver cans 13:14 < fenn> it's capsules all the way down 13:17 < apotheon> What about pneumatic message delivery on the blockchain? 13:17 < fenn> no, no, no. you're doing it wrong. for maximum buzzwordiness it's just "blockchain" 13:17 < fenn> not "blockchains" or "the blockchain" 13:18 * L29Ah settles apotheon off-chain 13:19 < apotheon> I object to that abuse of language. 13:19 < apotheon> . . . which is part of the reason I'm not making millions off idiots. 13:19 * fenn blockchains apotheon a can of condolence vodka 13:20 < apotheon> I don't drink alcohol. 13:20 * apotheon pneumatic-tubes it back. 13:21 < apotheon> I appreciate the gesture, though. 13:30 < fenn> luckily there are so many standard sizes are available to choose from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drink_can#Standard_sizes 13:32 * L29Ah CTCPs apotheon 1,4-butanediol 13:33 < apotheon> I still don't drink alcohol. 13:34 < fenn> "Liquid Fantasy" makes me want to place it in the trash with tongs 13:34 < apotheon> yikes 13:35 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamagedd@178235180025.dynamic-4-waw-k-4-0-0.vectranet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:48 -!- chico [~chico@2a02:2121:28d:63ee:456c:74bb:14ae:76c2] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:03 -!- juri_ [~juri@178.63.35.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:05 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:12 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-djzaldhjqmymwcsq] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:17 -!- Jayson_Virissimo [~Jayson@ip98-165-142-10.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:18 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-48-202.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:20 -!- juri_ [~juri@178.63.35.222] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:42 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:50 < kanzure> .title https://genomeinformatics.github.io/CHM13v1/ 15:50 < saxo> The (near) complete sequence of a human genome – Genome Informatics Section 15:57 < apotheon> It's nice that it's CC0. 15:58 < apotheon> I mean this thing: https://github.com/nanopore-wgs-consortium/CHM13#telomere-to-telomere-consortium 15:58 < apotheon> (linked from what kanzure shared) 16:03 < Jayson_Virissimo> Is there a dominant file format for whole genome sequence data, or at least one that is easy to convert into other formats using open source tooling? 16:04 < kanzure> yes 16:05 < Jayson_Virissimo> Which would that be? 16:07 < kanzure> fasta? 16:08 < Jayson_Virissimo> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FASTA_format 16:10 < Jayson_Virissimo> Hmmm...okay. So, supposing I ordered a WGS from somewhere like https://www.preventiongenetics.com/, and I requested the raw data in FASTA, they'd likely know what that meant and be able to send it so? 16:11 < kanzure> they know what it means but most companies don't want your business because it costs more to service you than someone who doesn't want the data 16:48 < Jayson_Virissimo> kanzure: thanks. I think I've avoided that issue since the order will be coming from a neonatologist, rather than myself. 16:50 < apotheon> good luck 16:52 -!- Jayson_Virissimo [~Jayson@ip98-165-142-10.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [] 16:54 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-djzaldhjqmymwcsq] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:56 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hqgfmevkrbvtjkmp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:18 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0:dc38:9599:f203:8795] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:55 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:09 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:20 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hqgfmevkrbvtjkmp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:22 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:27 < lsneff> .t https://www.reddit.com/r/electronics/comments/kqbgnn/i_believe_ive_created_a_memristor_and_im_to_open/ 20:27 < saxo> I believe I've created a memristor, and I'm to open sourcing my theory/method for others to try building it. : electronics 21:18 -!- mrdata__ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:54 -!- mrdata__ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:22 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:59 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:04 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:10 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Tue Jan 05 00:00:06 2021