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10:12 < lsneff> fltrz: that is interesting
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11:21 < nmz787_> lsneff: actually etching isn't really a limiting cost for test chips... it's the lithography masks
11:23 < lsneff> Ah, my mistake
11:27 < lsneff> What do they make those out of these days?
11:36 < nmz787_> quartz and chrome
11:36 < nmz787_> same as pretty much forever as far as I know
11:38 < nmz787_> and my mention of test chips is because they often throw away a large amount of the dies in the wafer, because their cost is miniscule compared to the wafer masks
11:38 < nmz787_> .wik fungibility
11:38 < saxo> "In economics, fungibility  is the property of a good or a commodity whose individual units are essentially interchangeable, and each of its parts is indistinguishable from another part. /  For example, gold is fungible since a specified amount of pure gold is equivalent to [...]" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fungibility
11:40 < nmz787_> basically when they're testing multiple processes at the same time
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13:28 < kanzure> .title https://vimeo.com/518734183
13:28 < saxo> Verify to Continue
13:28 < kanzure> ugh
13:34 < juri_> I have a lithographic mask. bought it at an auction.
13:36 < juri_> the cypress CT9291A. layer 230a-apm-03-01. made on 1/8/1991.
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14:29 < lsneff> The first computer
14:33 < kanzure> experiment.com posted to diybio that was kind of nice of them (although there post wasn't interesting)
14:36 < apotheon> maaku: VR goes back farther than Croquet.
14:37 < apotheon> maaku: I played a VR video game at a mall in the early '90s.
14:38 < apotheon> maaku: I was pretty interested in Croquet when I first encountered it, but it never got to a point where I was interested enough to try doing anything with it before I lost track of it.
14:45 < lsneff> .wik virtual boy
14:45 < saxo> "The Virtual Boy[a]| is a 32-bit tabletop portable video game console developed and manufactured by Nintendo. Released in 1995, it was marketed as the first console capable of displaying  stereoscopic '3D' graphics." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_boy
14:56 < kanzure> https://www.amazon.com/Memory-Called-Empire-Arkady-Martine-ebook/dp/B07C7BCB88
15:01 < maaku> apotheon: "programmable VR"
15:02 < maaku> for whatever you interpret that to mean
15:02 < maaku> but Croquet is definately programmable VR
15:23 < jrayhawk> '20:22 < lsneff> a successful 51% attack on eth would be very bad for its value' what a hilarious way to phrase that
15:26 < jrayhawk> eth has already hardforked eight times, mostly under central authority of the eth foundatoin. this "51% attack" on that central authority is actually evidence of increased ledger security
15:30 < jrayhawk> but actually trusting eth to mean anything in particular over time is antithetical to its fundamental value as a nebula of bullshit for ICO scammers to weave insane narratives out of, so it's still correct to say that it's losing value
15:35 < jrayhawk> ~ world computer ~
15:42 < kanzure> "... the Third International Summit on Human Genome Editing will take place in London, United Kingdom on March 7-9, 2022.  The summit is being collaboratively organized by the NAS, the NAM, the U.K.’s Royal Society and Academy of Medical Sciences, and the World Academy of Sciences"
15:43 < kanzure> "If you have any questions about the summit or the National Academies' Human Genome Editing Initiative, please contact GeneEditing@nas.edu " you know what to do, boys
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16:03 < lsneff> sounds fun
16:27 < apotheon> Actually, now that I think about it, that VR game was late '80s, not early '90s.
16:27 < apotheon> . . . but yeah, that's not "programmable VR" in the way Croquet seems to be.
16:30 < apotheon> It was '88 or '89.
17:10 < lsneff> By 'programmable vr', I meant more metaverse, but I didn't want to say that for whatever reason
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20:37 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26450096
20:37 < saxo> Experimental Nintendo Switch Emulator written in C# | Hacker News
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22:23 < maaku> lsneff: yeah Croquet is basically full-on metaverse, back in 2004
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