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01:16 < abetusk> fltrz, you've heard of compressed sensing?
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02:05 < fltrz> yes
02:06 < fltrz> have you guys seen "from jail cell tp stem cell" ? oh for the humanity
02:07 < fltrz> abetusk, why? in what context do are you interested in my thoughts about compressed sensing?
02:23 < abetusk> yeah, I think I want to eject from this conversation.
02:28 < adlai> I find the use of the word "defectors" when discussing presigned social contracts problematic.
02:29 < adlai> "presigned", or maybe "unsigned"; not certain what the right word is.
02:30 < adlai> essentially, situations where people are born into a social system that has certain assumptions about what proper behavior entails, and what deeds are worthy of distinction and what responsibilities are expected without compensation
02:31 < adlai> does a dog who contracted rabies 'defect' from the social contract that cavemen and tame wolves formed thousands of years ago?
02:31  * adlai knows that is not a perfect example, due to rabies being an actual pathogen
02:32 < adlai> however, one can compare the effect of ideas such as ownership property as being pathogenic on a memetic level
02:33 < adlai> I guess if your engineered system assumes that nobody has a concept of property ownership, and then that meme starts spreading through the population, you can call the infected ones defective, but what do words mean anyway!
02:49 < adlai> lsneff: i'm fairly certain fullerenes are a terrible form-factor for anything other than aesthetic wanking
02:49 < adlai> resonance is unfavorable when curvature is not absolute zero
02:49 < darsie> Would evading taxes or paying health care be a better example?
02:50 < adlai> "absolute zero" = don't try and be smart with "positive curvature one way, negative another, so it sums to zero", no, flat plane of nuclei
02:50 < darsie> Or wearing masks?
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02:51 < adlai> fullerenes can have local faces of resonance, although that means they are much larger than the classic example
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03:00 < fltrz> darsie, a better example of what?
03:01 < darsie> "defectors", rather than dogs contracting rabies.
03:07 < adlai> tbh the classic example is secession e.g. brexit
03:07 < adlai> although that is not an individual decision
03:08 < adlai> evading taxes is a bad example, because these are often demanded by sovereigns, as opposed to agreements
03:08 < adlai> health insurance fraud is a better example
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03:08 < adlai> e.g., someone strongly supports a healthcare legislation, injects a bit of cash to get it going, and then profits disproportionately
03:19 < abetusk> Does anyone have any experience with (or just have) one of the fiber laser metal engraving machines or have any experience with EZCAD on Linux? The machine looks to be able to do PCB ablation: https://www.kurokesu.com/main/2021/01/07/making-fine-pitch-pcb-prototypes-with-fiber-laser/
03:23 < srk> thats cool. recently there was another video using fap800 to do laser sintering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPFZg8989ac
03:23 < srk> fap800 is quite affordable but PSUs are problematic
03:42 < abetusk> There's this project: https://github.com/MillerLabFTW/OpenSLS which looks to use an 80W CO2 laser?
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05:46 < fenn> annoying noise warning, skip to t=20s in that video
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07:01 < lsneff> ugh, recruiter from my old job is trying to subjugate me
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12:07 < nmz787_> L29Ah: Boston to Austin... are you planning to fly? Driving would be at minimum 2 grueling days and nights... it could easily be smeared across weeks of easier days with lots of sightseeing all along
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15:20 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=60573e08 Darius Parvin: Correct L2 to Eltoo >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/tel-aviv-2019/edgedevplusplus/lightning-network-layer-by-layer/
15:20 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=2216e35e Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #216 from DariusParvin/patch-1 >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/
16:04 < L29Ah> nmz787_: sure, the tickets are $50 that surprised em
16:04 < L29Ah> but anyway i'm not doing it this year, if ever
16:05 < fltrz> " Correct L2 to Eltoo" ??? in context of machine learning I think L2 norm is more probable than Eltoo whatever??
16:05 < L29Ah> also i don't have a driver's license, and seems like that means i'm screwed in USA, except some cities
16:38 < maaku> fltrz: eltoo is the worst name ever
16:38 < maaku> Lightning is an L2 (meaning layer-two) network on bitcoin, right?
16:39 < maaku> So the lightning guys figured out an even better way to make lightning-like networks, in a generic way.
16:40 < maaku> So the technique makes better, more capable level-2 networks.
16:40 < maaku> And of course the name they gave to this new technique? "Eltoo"
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18:59 < lsneff> L29Ah: you can get lyft or uber in cities
18:59 < lsneff> and boston has decent publish transit iirc
19:20 < fltrz> maaku, didn't know that, thx
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