--- Log opened Wed Mar 31 00:00:11 2021 01:36 -!- sknebel_ is now known as sknebel 02:19 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:23 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:31 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lfwmhxoiwfmbeiuk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:05 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@50-192-147-253-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:25 < kanzure> https://www.arc.gov.au/news-publications/media/research-highlights/diy-balloon-pump-takes-microfluidics-people 06:26 < kanzure> https://www.medgadget.com/2019/07/low-cost-diy-pump-for-microfluidics-made-from-balloons-and-nylon-stockings.html 07:21 < L29Ah> is it beneficial to consume docosahexaenoic acid versus alpla-linolenic acid for an adult male? 08:21 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lfwmhxoiwfmbeiuk] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:25 -!- ccdle12 [955adef3@243.222.90.149.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:10 -!- Guest28705 [catalase@pls.just.stfu-kthx.bnc4you.xyz] has quit [Quit: ZNC provider BNC4you] 10:11 -!- catalase [catalase@pls.just.stfu-kthx.bnc4you.xyz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:11 -!- catalase is now known as Guest42978 10:16 -!- molball [acdf575d@172-223-087-093.res.spectrum.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:19 -!- molball [acdf575d@172-223-087-093.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:30 -!- ccdle1266 [955adef3@243.222.90.149.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:30 -!- ccdle12 [955adef3@243.222.90.149.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:30 -!- ccdle1266 [955adef3@243.222.90.149.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Client Quit] 10:31 -!- ccdle12 [955adef3@243.222.90.149.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:32 -!- ccdle12 [955adef3@243.222.90.149.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Client Quit] 10:33 -!- ccdle12 [955adef3@243.222.90.149.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:50 -!- sanehatter [sanehatter@gateway/vpn/mullvad/sanehatter] has quit [Quit: -] 12:02 -!- Jayson_Virissimo [~Jayson@ip98-165-142-10.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:21 -!- sanehatter [~sanehatte@141.98.255.146] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:33 -!- ccdle12 [955adef3@243.222.90.149.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:44 -!- sanehatter [~sanehatte@141.98.255.146] has quit [Quit: reboot] 14:51 -!- sanehatter [~sanehatte@141.98.255.146] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:19 -!- yonkunas [uid403824@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gmkgupwcrpakrofq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 16:12 < fenn> L29Ah: my understanding is that only a small fraction of ALA is able to be converted to heavier fatty acids by the human body, due to low expression or activity of the relevant enzyme, and that this is not enough. the vegans disagree of course 16:13 < L29Ah> fenn: why do you think it's not enough/it matters? 16:13 < L29Ah> i've only seen strong evidence for infants 16:14 < fenn> barry sears has summarized the molecular biology of pro- and anti-inflammatory eicosanoids in "the anti aging zone" 16:14 < fenn> there is a lot of stuff about cardiovascular disease 16:15 < fenn> also the brain is primarily DHA; it would seem that more DHA would be needed for maintenance 16:15 < fenn> personally, i notice a large difference in skin dryness and hair/scalp issues 16:16 < fenn> i find it bothersome to get enough fresh DHA in my diet though 16:16 < fenn> i wish someone made algae oil ice cream 16:16 < L29Ah> if the brain thing was right, we would see drastically lower brain aging in females vs males 16:17 < fenn> i'd expect the opposite; the human parasite sucks all their free DHA during gestation, leaving the host exhausted and drained at the end 16:18 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:19 < fenn> it's hard to believe that diet could change enough during pregnancy through sheer instincts and craving to make up for the chronic shortfall in the regular diet 16:28 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@50-192-147-253-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:32 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@50-192-147-253-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:41 < L29Ah> 02:17:18] i'd expect the opposite; the human parasite sucks all their free DHA during gestation, leaving the host exhausted and drained at the end 16:41 < L29Ah> except there are females who don't host any parasites or host ones once during their youth 16:42 < fenn> ok why would you expect female brains to age slower? 16:44 < fenn> oh the conversion rate is higher 16:44 < fenn> "in healthy young men indicated that approximately 8% of dietary ALA was converted to EPA and 0%-4% was converted to docosahexaenoic acid (DHA). In healthy young women, approximately 21% of dietary ALA was converted to EPA and 9% was converted to DHA" 16:45 < fenn> it's not like people get a lot of ALA in their diet either 16:45 < fenn> it has all the same storage problems as fish but without the obvious signs (fishiness) that it's going bad 16:46 < fenn> it does smell bad eventually, but it's not as obvious 16:53 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@50-192-147-253-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:59 -!- Jayson_Virissimo [~Jayson@ip98-165-142-10.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [] 17:00 < L29Ah> yeah it'd be hard to find a sample of people consuming lots of ALA but not DHA 17:19 < fenn> another unnecessarily cool thing from festo, artificial birds: https://youtu.be/hUE8o056Cpc 17:19 < fenn> the music is a bit much 17:20 < L29Ah> maybe you meant: rc ornithopters 17:21 < fenn> they don't lay eggs 17:21 < L29Ah> can this shit fly on the energy obtained from consumed carbs? 17:21 < L29Ah> if not then it SUCKS 17:21 < fenn> you are entitled to your opinion 17:22 < L29Ah> seriously though, meat birds have astonishingly good power plants compared to electric stuff 17:22 < L29Ah> and internal combustion stuff doesn't fit in a bird 17:23 < fenn> they do; a bird's range is about the same as an airliner's range, and for the same reason. specific energy density of hydrocarbon fuels 17:23 < L29Ah> probably doesn't live as long either 18:58 -!- yonkunas [uid403824@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jpewpusrwilsxqki] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:49 < kanzure> https://www.labonthecheap.com/optij-open-source-optical-projection-tomography-for-3000/ 22:10 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:34 < adlai> nmz787__: in what sort of climate is this? [re: harvesting fuel from a forest] 23:42 < adlai> my worthless hunch is that you should mulch, and use the excess from the trail coverings to make methanol 23:42 * adlai has no idea whether that strays outside of your energy/equipment constraints 23:43 < adlai> it might even be illegal! e.g. in israel, you apparently need a license to do pretty much any chemical process beyond fermenting beer --- Log closed Thu Apr 01 00:00:12 2021