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00:16 < fenn> last i heard they had shown a "orders of magnitude improvement in thrust" but that could also be due to experimental error like the lesser thrust measured before, so...
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11:56 < superkuh> The emdrive stuff? It was recently shown definitively to not exist.
11:57 < superkuh> Thermal expansion like everyone assumed.
11:58 < superkuh> There is still Zubrin's dipole drive accelerator for solar wind that needs to be disproved. It seems pretty neat.
12:02 < adlai> have any of the interplanetary crafts yet used solar propulsion, other than absorbing photons to power their telemetry circuits?
12:03 < adlai> arguably, it could actually be more practical these days for lagrangian orbiters to use solar prop for course corrections, although the magnitude orders might be irrelevant
12:04  * adlai doubts that many try to orbit the L-points whose curvature is not significantly positive
12:04 < superkuh> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IKAROS
12:04 < adlai> .wik IKAROS
12:04 < saxo> "IKAROS (Interplanetary Kite-craft Accelerated by Radiation Of the Sun) is a Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) experimental spacecraft." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IKAROS
12:05 < adlai> a bold name!
12:11  * adlai wonders to what degree the maneuverability of such crafts hinges upon the energetics of the liquid crystals
12:12 < adlai> without reading anything about the details, my understanding is that one pulse is needed for a rotation, provided that the activation barrier between the useful states is higher than the typical solar pressure
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12:13 < adlai> so let's say you're trying to build the
12:13 < adlai> .wik betelgeuse bridge
12:13 < saxo> Article not found: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse_bridge gave 404 | Searched en for 'betelgeuse bridge' | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_result_found gave 404 | Searched en for 'No result found'
12:13 < adlai> ...
12:13 < adlai> I won't spoil the twist, end of that thread of conversation.
12:14 < adlai> what else is broken?
12:20 < nmz787__> jrayhawk: looks like simply selling the excess power back to the grid would be more profitable than mining
12:24 < adlai> let's go back to nutrition: how many generations of institutionalised veganism will it take for the next speciation to be acknowledged by self-important publications?
12:25  * adlai realizes that "we can't date, you eat smelly food" is not universal, although it does actually dominate the market quite heavily
12:26 < nmz787__> aren't vegetables and meats both smelly?
12:27  * L29Ah dissolved his GHRP-6 in a regular sterile 0.9% NaCl solution and now wonders who will be quicker to consume it: me or bacteria
12:32 < adlai> the asparagus effect doesn't occur from all foods, although adherents of ethics-based diets (as opposed to allergies) frequently employ embargos rather than merely asking that you don't swap silverware while they go to the toilet.
12:33  * adlai recently smelled asparagus metabolites after eating a meal that wasn't supposed to contain asparagus... wrote it off as "blech, they probably laced my food with another vaccine"
12:39 < adlai> dogs might disagree about the asparagus effect not being universal; supposedly, their reason for doing so is why they don't pee on every single spot where they smell that another dog has recently
12:39 < adlai> i.e., they are essentially incessantly asking "what are they feeding my friends?", and leaving answers to that question for others.
12:41  * adlai is much less familiar with the social habits of other domesticated animals; dogs are notable for, not only being closely accompanied by their domesticators, but also doing their business in public, often even as a way of one-upping each other.
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16:04 < kanzure> .wik superfetation
16:04 < saxo> " / Superfetation (also spelled superfoetation – see fetus) is the simultaneous occurrence of more than one stage of developing offspring in the same animal. /  In mammals, it manifests as the formation of an embryo from a different menstrual cycle while another embryo or [...]" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfetation
16:04 < kanzure> a human case was confirmed today
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18:01 < kanzure> .wik viloxazine
18:01 < saxo> "Viloxazine, sold under the brand name Qelbree among others, is used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). It is a  selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor (NRI). /  Viloxazine was approved for medical use in the United States in April 2021. /  [...]" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viloxazine
18:03 < kanzure> "Cryptography during the French and American wars in Vietnam" https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/1136
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21:36 < maaku> *police action
21:36  * maaku ducks
22:37 < fenn> geo-engineering test cancelled: https://sscspace.com/news-activities/no-technical-test-flight-for-scopex-from-esrange/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_aerosol_injection
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