--- Log opened Sat May 01 00:00:42 2021 00:36 -!- thedragon [thedragon@gateway/vpn/mullvad/thedragon] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:39 -!- thedragon [thedragon@gateway/vpn/mullvad/thedragon] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:40 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:55 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@82-64-99-84.subs.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:57 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@82-64-99-84.subs.proxad.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:04 -!- thedragon [thedragon@gateway/vpn/mullvad/thedragon] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:07 -!- thedragon [thedragon@gateway/vpn/mullvad/thedragon] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:35 -!- thedragon_ [~thedragon@141.98.255.146] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:36 -!- thedragon [thedragon@gateway/vpn/mullvad/thedragon] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:02 -!- thedragon^ [thedragon@gateway/vpn/mullvad/thedragon] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:04 -!- thedragon_ [~thedragon@141.98.255.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:30 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: juri_, TMA 02:31 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-112-64.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:36 -!- thedragon^ [thedragon@gateway/vpn/mullvad/thedragon] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:37 -!- Netsplit over, joins: juri_, TMA 05:00 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0:5dc8:1ea9:cc44:39b5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:22 -!- thedragon [thedragon@gateway/vpn/mullvad/thedragon] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:54 -!- Fractal [~cbd@2401:c080:1800:47c9:5400:3ff:fe20:7c97] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:55 -!- Mestri [~yolo@2401:c080:1800:47c9:5400:3ff:fe20:7c97] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:45 < iw> Has anyone gotten rfid/nfc implants and what do you use them for? 11:25 < kanzure> we usually tape stuff to our finger instead 11:25 < kanzure> doesn't require surgery that way 12:02 < superkuh> There is a company in my city that has implanted rfid chips in about 90 people now. 12:04 < superkuh> They manufacture fancy vending machines. 12:06 < kanzure> https://msrc-blog.microsoft.com/2021/04/29/badalloc-memory-allocation-vulnerabilities-could-affect-wide-range-of-iot-and-ot-devices-in-industrial-medical-and-enterprise-networks/ 12:11 < iw> I'm going to get a chip from dangerous things implanted sooner or later 12:11 < iw> I just like the idea too much haha 12:12 < iw> I'm a piercing/scarification fan so I have 'connections'... I know people who've done implants and are familiar with sterile procedure etc 12:19 < kanzure> what are you trying to accomplish 12:23 < iw> kanzure, I'm trying to put an rfid chip under my skin, you? 12:25 < kanzure> yes but what are you trying to accomplish by doing that? 12:25 < iw> That's the end goal 12:25 < iw> There are many things that can be done after that 12:26 < kanzure> like what? 12:26 < iw> I can store nudes on it 12:26 < iw> 4kb nudes 12:27 < kanzure> can't you do that with a hard drive? 12:27 < iw> Yeah, I can, but I can't implant a hard drive under my skin without a high chance of dying 12:27 < kanzure> oh that makes sense, yeah in that case i wouldn't put it under your skin 12:28 < kanzure> you can get really high capacity storage these days though, especially if you're willing to not put it under your skin 12:28 < iw> I know 12:33 < streety> I like how iw came here for ideas on what to do with an implanted RFID chip and they are now bringing up ideas. I can't say I've seen any compelling use for them other than storing a swiss back account number in case I suffer amnesia while being shot at and jumping from a yacht into the sea 12:34 < iw> streety, what about storing a private key 12:34 -!- HEx11 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:35 < streety> Yes, 20 years later it would probably contain a bitcoin wallet or similar 12:36 < iw> Yep 12:43 < kanzure> "I see dead micro-ops: Leaking secrets via Intel and AMD micro-op caches" http://www.cs.virginia.edu/venkat/papers/isca2021a.pdf 12:45 < kanzure> https://github.blog/2021-04-29-scaling-monorepo-maintenance/ 13:11 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@82-64-99-84.subs.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:12 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@82-64-99-84.subs.proxad.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:14 < kanzure> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALCETrXRvhqw0fibE6qom3sDJ+nOa_aEJQeuAjPofh=8h1Cujg@mail.gmail.com/ 13:34 -!- grimler32 [~grimler67@pool-108-49-215-20.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:35 < grimler32> Can anyone help me with an xk memo replica or backwards compatable dwg mind warper? 13:38 -!- xna [3f974599@63.151.69.153] has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:40 < fltrz> how do governments / research institutions deal with the cost / value trade-off of supercomputers? how does it compare to the cost / value trade-off for mining cryptocurrencies? are they used to mine cryptocurrencies a fraction of the time? if so they wouldn't exactly openly pride themselves on it, because of the energy waste, but as long as mining is legal it might make financial (even if immoral to some) sense for research 13:40 < fltrz> supercomputers to be used for mining part time, if not to sponsor its maintenance and deployment of the next planned supercomputer. The competition between crypto mining and other users is usually portrayed as gamers and miners competing for the same hardware, but its suspiciously silent on the competition between research computations and mining 13:43 -!- xna [3f974599@63.151.69.153] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:44 -!- wallet42____ [sid154231@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ncppgzjybbotbvgu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:44 -!- Solgriffin [sid282649@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tthyatnilmtqdona] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:44 -!- EnabrinTain [sid11525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zugjptsasceuncet] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:47 -!- wallet42____ [sid154231@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dclctwxokqalkbme] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:47 -!- Solgriffin [sid282649@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qdczuxupopumczfq] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:47 -!- EnabrinTain [sid11525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gnccciyuphqjfrdh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:51 -!- Solgriffin [sid282649@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qdczuxupopumczfq] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:51 -!- acertain [sid470584@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sumasjykwljqhlbu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:51 -!- Solgriffin [sid282649@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-csnbhkmknupyzbpe] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:51 -!- s0ph1a [sid246387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nojrpwhdebtzenoj] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:53 -!- s0ph1a [sid246387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mkcdgpvawypgqtzt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:54 -!- lsneff [sid265665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pdpalakdwcetocds] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:55 -!- Solgriffin [sid282649@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-csnbhkmknupyzbpe] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:55 -!- acertain [sid470584@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-orzpfpabdksdtfgw] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:55 -!- lsneff [sid265665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hatuguhxfdbutlmi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:55 -!- Solgriffin [sid282649@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dqtbrmdnvxkwhfdn] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:58 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:03 < TMA> fltrz: research budget is usually not coupled to economic profit/loss it directly causes 15:05 < TMA> fltrz: and hence there are rarely any incentives to monetize the "downtime" 15:05 < gradstudentbot> Uh, interesting question. 15:08 < TMA> fltrz: moreso, making sense financially is orthogonal to research goals for the researchers. the question is only relevant for the funding source and it is seldom asked even then 15:09 < TMA> basically the budgeting is political at the top and bureaucratic on the lower levels 15:27 -!- Jay_Dugger [~jwd@47.185.203.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:38 < juri_> ugh. random medical issues no-one can figgure out are no fun. especially when they cause daily migranes. for 5 weeks now. 15:42 < L29Ah> peripheral atherosclerosis, i choose you 15:48 < L29Ah> https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.22.110205v1 15:48 < L29Ah> .t 15:48 < saxo> Sweet taste of heavy water | bioRxiv 16:07 < nmz787> juri_: ugh, that sounds terrible, sorry to hear and that I can't do anything more than give a virtual pat on the shoulder :( 16:24 * juri_ nods. 16:24 < juri_> it's been really hard to work through. 16:25 < juri_> I think i'll go to bed.. 16:28 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-112-64.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:28 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:40 < lsneff> .t https://mobile.twitter.com/max_hodak/status/1388620553569726467 17:40 < saxo> ✨Some personal news:✨ I am no longer at Neuralink (as of a few weeks ago). I learned a ton there and remain a huge cheerleader for the company! Onward to new things. (@max_hodak) 18:13 < kanzure> hmm 18:14 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0:5dc8:1ea9:cc44:39b5] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:18 < lsneff> Indeed 18:29 < lsneff> This reduces my confidence in neuralink succeeding. 18:39 -!- catalase_ [catalase@pls.just.stfu-kthx.bnc4you.xyz] has quit [Changing host] 18:39 -!- catalase_ [catalase@unaffiliated/catalase] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:18 < kanzure> "High-throughput functional variant screens via in vivo production of single-stranded DNA" https://www.pnas.org/content/118/18/e2018181118 19:18 < kanzure> "We report a methodology for the pooled construction of mutants bearing precise genomic sequence variations and multiplex phenotypic characterization of these mutants using next-generation sequencing (NGS). Unlike existing techniques depending on CRISPR-Cas–directed genomic breaks for genome editing, this strategy instead uses single-stranded DNA produced by a retron element for ... 19:18 < kanzure> ...recombineering. This enables libraries of millions of elements to be constructed and offers relaxed design constraints which permit natural DNA or random variation to be used as inputs." 19:19 < kanzure> https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2021-04/wifb-moc042921.php 19:31 -!- catalase_ is now known as catalase 20:41 -!- xna [3f974599@63.151.69.153] has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 23:03 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Sun May 02 00:00:43 2021