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07:13 < streety> The article posted a couple days (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8064200/) ago is interesting. I wonder what the adherence was like as there was a lot included in the treatment arm. It doesn't seem like there are any numbers given. The variability in the control group stands out. Seems multiple baseline measurements would be very useful.
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07:53 < kanzure> sounds like there needs to be higher reliability designs for egg storage https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/nxfhni/15m_awarded_to_five_people_who_lost_eggs_embryos/
08:15 < jrayhawk> if you like paleo RCTs, there's a lot more where that came from
08:15 < jrayhawk> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24476345 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28394724 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25661189 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28440046 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24473459 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17522610 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23414424 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23890471 
08:15 < jrayhawk> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25828624 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25304296 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27216013 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27235022 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27223304 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118562 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19604407 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17583796 
08:15 < jrayhawk> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26003334 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26786351
08:15 < jrayhawk> plus some single-arm  stuff https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6373464 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29173519 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28858071
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09:13 < streety> more a general interest than specifically paleo. I'll take a look though. Any that seem particularly well conducted?
09:16 < streety> the first two links are also single-arm
09:16 < jrayhawk> oh, whoops
09:16 < jrayhawk> thanks for pointing that out
09:17 < streety> no worries, wasn't sure whether it was important
09:22 < jrayhawk> she has a pile of actual randomized trials i meant to use instead https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=wahls+diet+randomized+trial
09:23 < jrayhawk> but no, methodologically they're all pretty small since diet RCTs are expensive as hell and nobody wants to throw real money at this sort of thing
09:24 < jrayhawk> so the only interesting thing would be if you have any disease area within inflammation, metabolism, or psychology you're particularly looking for information on
09:24 < streety> Yeah, I've never been particularly happy with these types of study.
09:37 < streety> I think my interest ends up being outcome measures > interventions > results
09:37 < streety> probably not what was intended
11:41 < kanzure> "A Rare Mutation of β1-Adrenergic Receptor Affects Sleep/Wake Behaviors" https://www.cell.com/neuron/fulltext/S0896-6273(19)30652-X
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17:54 < kanzure> "Solving archaeological puzzles" https://arxiv.org/abs/1812.10553
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