--- Log opened Mon Jun 14 00:00:37 2021 00:48 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@user/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:55 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@user/urchin] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:56 -!- dustinm- [~dustinm@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:12 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:48 < streety> is cardano well regarded? Any issues I should know about before looking more closely at the platform? 04:47 -!- cpopell [~cpopell@c-24-22-170-81.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 05:11 -!- srk [~sorki@user/srk] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.1 - https://znc.in] 05:11 -!- srk [~sorki@user/srk] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:22 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0:d4f3:4eda:51c2:6583] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:42 -!- cpopell [~cpopell@c-24-22-170-81.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:13 -!- cpopell [~cpopell@c-24-22-170-81.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:44 < nmz787> jrayhawk: dry enough to walk on and bring small equipment onto 09:41 -!- otoburb [~otoburb@user/otoburb] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:52 -!- otoburb [~otoburb@user/otoburb] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:56 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0:d4f3:4eda:51c2:6583] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:49 < nmz787> well, I bought some burn barrels last weekend and burned some cardboard and plastic trash yesterday... it was both satisfying, gross, and wasteful all at the same time 15:49 < nmz787> I wish there was some way to use such garbage as fuel for.... something 15:50 < nmz787> something that isn't the whole micro combined power and heat gasifiers 15:52 < L29Ah[XMPP]> stirling 16:07 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@user/urchin] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:08 -!- thedragon [~thedragon@user/thedragon] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:09 -!- thedragon [~thedragon@user/thedragon] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:18 -!- chiastre [~chiastre@user/chiastre] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:20 -!- chiastre [~chiastre@user/chiastre] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:00 < fenn> you could use it to cook a barrel of wood into charcoal 18:01 < fenn> outputs = methanol, phenolic acids, tar, charcoal 18:02 < fenn> just burning it in a more enclosed, high temperature combustion chamber, would be worth the reduction in nasty smoke 18:04 < fenn> oh and creosote 18:04 < fenn> not that i know what one would even do with these raw chemicals 18:10 < nmz787> yeah lining it with some firebrick would be good, but also make it much heavier (which isn't really a terrible thing I guess... I could always mount it on a wagon or casters or wheels 18:15 < fenn> i'm imagining the terrain won't be kind to casters 18:16 < fenn> there's this awful stuff called fiberfrax with is a sort of crustified ceramic wool. it's sturdy enough to use as furnace lining but also low thermal mass so you don't waste a lot of energy heating up the furnace itself 18:17 < fenn> so you would have, from the center, fiberfrax, ceramic wool, rockwool, steel barrel 18:18 < fenn> and presumably some kind of heat exchanger in the chimney 18:19 < fenn> or lightweight insulating firebrick. since you're not throwing logs on it, the furnace liner doesn't need to be especially durable 18:23 < fenn> the cheap option would be perlite with a clay + grog + dung liner, but perlite shrinks over time with heat and so you'd have to keep repairing the liner 18:24 < nmz787> the casters would have to use air-filled tires, or at least something large and rubber 18:24 < fenn> never seen a caster like that 18:25 < fenn> harbor freight has 8" pneumatic casters for $15 each 18:25 < nmz787> yeah I am trying to load that site now 18:25 < nmz787> ... 18:25 < nmz787> I still haven't moved the antennas up to the roof yet :/ 18:26 < fenn> this seems like the kind of thing to make out of bike parts 18:26 < nmz787> ping is decent enough for VNC and SSH... but I must be bouncing the signal off the ground or something, idk, because it looks that way from a distance and also the throughput is pretty low 18:26 < fenn> perhaps superkuh can say smart things about fresnel zones 18:27 < nmz787> it seems like lots of requests have significant slowdown associated , which is like all the modern websites with tracking and ads and stupid RESTful interfaces 18:27 < fenn> non-restful 18:27 < fenn> you can block a lot of that crap with "privacy" extensions and it's faster 18:27 < nmz787> harbor freight even seems to have 10" pneumatic casters for $17 18:27 < superkuh> Don't order from harbor freight. 18:28 < nmz787> well it's even "legit" work sites 18:28 < nmz787> for that I've ended up just using a Remote Desktop session to load that stuff in 18:28 < superkuh> I had to charge back harbor freight recently. They unilaterally canceled my order after 4 days. I confirmed they canceled and bought a local product instead. 20 days later they charge my card and ship. Phone support says they never sent the email but I have it DKIM signed and gave print outs to my bank. 18:29 < nmz787> huh 18:29 < nmz787> I ordered a tool chest from them once, that was the only time I think 18:29 < nmz787> it came without issue I recall 18:29 < fenn> yes with HF it's better to go in person 18:29 < superkuh> They're a really shady company now. Not like 15-20 years ago. 18:29 < fenn> the value proposition just isn't really there anymore either 18:30 < nmz787> they recently seem to have discontinued the 20% off coupons 18:30 < fenn> it's just low quality stuff at average prices for the most part 18:30 < nmz787> unfortunately it seems like homedepot et al have less selection and make you walk around more 18:30 < fenn> for many categories of things there just isn't an equivalent. you can't go into home depot and buy a metalworking lathe 18:32 < fenn> i keep looking at casters and thinking how to build one from scratch and not coming up with anything 18:33 < fenn> but like, once you have a design you're happy with, that's like infinity casters 18:35 < fenn> fortunately i already have enough casters for all of my shelves --- Log closed Tue Jun 15 00:00:38 2021