--- Log opened Sun Jul 18 00:00:09 2021 00:18 -!- kona_ [~kona@196.196.192.12] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:20 -!- kona_ [~kona@196.196.192.12] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21 -!- kona_ [~kona@196.196.192.4] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:22 -!- kona_ [~kona@196.196.192.4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:22 -!- kona_ [~kona@196.196.192.4] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:24 -!- kona_ [~kona@196.196.192.4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:25 -!- kona_ [~kona@196.196.192.60] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:27 -!- kona_ [~kona@196.196.192.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27 -!- kona_ [~kona@196.196.192.52] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:29 -!- kona_ [~kona@196.196.192.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:29 -!- kona_ [~kona@196.196.192.52] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:30 -!- kona_ [~kona@196.196.192.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:30 -!- kona_ [~kona@104.160.25.76] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:32 -!- kona_ [~kona@104.160.25.76] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:33 -!- kona_ [~kona@165.231.210.188] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:36 -!- kona_ [~kona@165.231.210.188] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:40 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@user/codaraxis] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:40 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@user/codaraxis] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:26 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@c-73-147-55-120.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:36 < fenn> "My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre and that I am therefore excused from saving universes." 05:37 < L29Ah> i'm trans moral 05:37 < L29Ah> and i identify myself as paperclip maximizer 05:38 < fenn> i identify as a paperclip maximizer minimizer. engarde! 06:53 < Urchin[emacs]> now you've made me play universal paperclips, hope you're happy 07:16 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@user/malvolio] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:21 < lsneff> .t http://www.re-des.org/a-solarpunk-manifesto/ 07:21 < saxo> Sorry, links cannot contain spaces 07:21 < L29Ah> saxo: noob 07:22 < L29Ah> also solarpunk is lame, and there's no such thing as sustainable civilization 07:54 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@user/urchin] has quit [Quit: ERC (IRC client for Emacs 26.1)] 09:07 < fenn> eventually the sun will burn out 09:08 < kanzure> good riddance 09:56 < kanzure> https://www.lifeview.com/ 09:57 < kanzure> .title https://patents.google.com/patent/US20210130849A1/en 09:57 < saxo> US20210130849A1 - Human gene correction - Google Patents 11:01 < kanzure> "When scientists tried to gestate mice outside the womb, they expected the embryos to wither, deprived of the surface that had evolved to nurture them. To their shock they found instead that – implanted in the brain, testis or eye of a mouse – the embryo went wild" 11:01 < kanzure> but did it work? 11:11 < kanzure> i can't seem to find this reference. "ex utero" and "ectopic" are bringing up other junk. 11:25 < kanzure> same claim from same author "Researchers, bless their curious little hearts, have tried to implant embryos all over the bodies of mice (who also have hemochorial placentae, though theirs are much less invasive than ours). The single most difficult place for them to grow was – the endometrium" 11:35 < kanzure> huh, the google results for "chosen nonce attack" are strange .. why is this all bitcoin stuff? 12:21 -!- Croran [~quassel@2601:601:1880:7780:6d09:2aab:f851:fc4f] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:32 < kanzure> Croran: hi. 13:02 -!- Guest2980 [~Guest29@243.222.90.149.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:02 < kanzure> https://biohackinfo.com/news-patent-applications-mitalipov-egli-crispr-gene-editing/ 13:03 < kanzure> ah, because it is called "chosen plaintext attack" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen-plaintext_attack 13:06 -!- Guest2980 [~Guest29@243.222.90.149.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Client Quit] 13:26 < fenn> there's gotta be at least one greek myth about a supersoldier bursting out of some woman's side 13:27 < fenn> as a baby "demi-god" of some sort 13:46 < kanzure> https://legislature.vermont.gov/Documents/2020/Docs/BILLS/PR0005/PR0005%20As%20passed%20by%20the%20Senate%20Official.pdf 15:17 < fenn> time to fire up the cloning vats 15:28 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@user/malvolio] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:37 -!- Croran [~quassel@2601:601:1880:7780:6d09:2aab:f851:fc4f] has quit [Quit: Croran] 17:34 -!- dr_orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@31.14.40.19] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.0 - https://znc.in] 19:00 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@c-73-147-55-120.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:05 < lsneff> I'm sure I ask this every year or so, but has there been any more progress in making general machines that can make other machines? Still an unsolved problem? 20:11 < kanzure> we can make humans that make other humans, does that count? 20:13 < lsneff> Sounds inefficient 21:14 -!- kona_ [~kona@165.231.210.180] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:15 -!- kona_ [~kona@165.231.210.180] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:16 -!- kona_ [~kona@165.231.210.188] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:19 -!- kona_ [~kona@165.231.210.188] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:23 < maaku> lsneff: we make machines that make other machines all the time 21:23 < maaku> making machines that *design* other machines is difficult 21:24 < maaku> for software AI reasons 21:24 < maaku> making machines that can construct machines of designs not known in advance is difficult for hardware robotics reasons 21:25 < maaku> fenn: https://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/The_Myths/Birth_of_Athena/birth_of_athena.html 21:35 < fenn> yeah not what i meant. athena is clearly an AI 21:51 -!- kona_ [~kona@165.231.210.180] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:52 -!- kona_ [~kona@165.231.210.180] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:53 -!- kona_ [~kona@165.231.210.180] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:54 -!- kona_ [~kona@165.231.210.180] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:55 -!- kona_ [~kona@165.231.210.188] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:56 -!- kona_ [~kona@165.231.210.188] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57 -!- kona_ [~kona@165.231.210.172] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:58 -!- kona_ [~kona@165.231.210.172] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59 -!- kona_ [~kona@196.196.232.4] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:00 -!- kona_ [~kona@196.196.232.4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Mon Jul 19 00:00:10 2021