--- Log opened Fri Sep 10 00:00:03 2021 00:09 < ^ditto> [freenode] nitpick re:"first aid" -- at least in the Israeli Defense Forces, "first aid" is not what medics administer, and for gunshots and similar wounds consists of only stopping external bleeding 00:09 < ^ditto> [freenode] * adlai even had, once a card certifying him as "qualified to administer first aid" 00:09 < ^ditto> [freenode] the joke was that it takes less time to administer first aid, than to search for the card and show it to the dying person 00:11 < ^ditto> [freenode] * adlai only once ever fell back upon that training, although that is more than zero times! 00:12 < ^ditto> [freenode] arguably it is mostly common sense: e.g., don't change the position of an unconscious head while checking if it's still breathing 00:15 < ^ditto> [freenode] * adlai encountered a maybe-corpse who had driven an electric scooter into a tree... he did not respond to any verbal challenges; I searched for a wrist pulse, and that woke up the person. 00:19 < ^ditto> [freenode] pretty much all complex procedures are only taught to trained medics, and thus aren't considered "first aid", since that's something that anyone should be able to do 00:19 < ^ditto> [freenode] examples of common such procedures are attaching IVs or adjusting tourniquets 01:33 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@31.14.40.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:41 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@31.14.40.18] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:56 -!- fltrz [~fltrz@213.219.147.109.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:57 -!- fltrz [~fltrz@213.219.147.109.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:21 < kanzure> adlai are you holding out against libera 10:31 < kanzure> https://nuclearweaponarchive.org/ 10:32 < L29Ah> 08:51:28] i wonder about vaccine effectiveness over time with plasma donation 10:32 < L29Ah> it will diminish as plasma contains your antibodies 11:02 < maaku> adlai is a believer and follower of the Joseon dynasty 11:49 < kanzure> maaku: how goes it? 14:25 < kanzure> https://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/longevity/longevity-drugs.2021.xlsx 14:43 < L29Ah> no prooflinks = sux 14:43 < L29Ah> also looks like shit in xlsx2csv output 15:05 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@c-73-147-55-120.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:29 < kanzure> https://git.sequentialread.com/forest/pow-captcha 15:50 < jrayhawk> is hashcash finally getting its time in the sun? 15:50 < L29Ah> wtf it doesn't even mine monero 15:50 < L29Ah> what a waste of resources 15:58 < maaku> kanzure: moving houses sucks 16:00 < maaku> also recently it feels like I'm just treading water and not actually making progress on any projects that matter :\ 16:49 -!- Codaraxis_ [~Codaraxis@user/codaraxis] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:53 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@user/codaraxis] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:58 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@c-73-147-55-120.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Log closed Sat Sep 11 00:00:04 2021