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08:30 < kanzure> https://www.overcomingbias.com/2020/09/the-world-forager-elite.html
08:39 < fenn> does hanson know there was a vaccine in february 2020
08:43 < fenn> what he describes is pretty much what i complain about all the time, but it doesn't seem fair to blame "forager values"
08:43 < fenn> actual forager bands were autonomous and independent, and there were real differences in behavior between them
08:44 < fenn> with one global system you get one monoculture and there is no escape or variance to find better solutions
08:44 < fenn> the problem is monoculture
08:45 < fenn> people moving to places that reflect their values works much better than democracy anyway
08:47 < jrayhawk> uh... history's greatest disasters arose when dialectical political tension collapsed
08:49 < jrayhawk> it's like you've seen the specific failure modes of democracy and decided to enshrine them as models of the future
08:52 < fenn> there's always going to be SOME friction to movement
08:54 < fenn> i am too dumb for this conversation at the moment
08:56 < jrayhawk> the recurring problem i see is that our instincts for maintaining authority-accountability loops that evolved for dunbar-number scale are no match for accountability-diffusal technologies deployed at a global scale
08:57 < fenn> [REDACTED]
08:57 < jrayhawk> small nations are happy to externalize and diffuse accountability to foreign policymakers in larger nations
08:58 < jrayhawk> especially when there are high costs to doing original research
09:02 < jrayhawk> sci-hub solves some of this, at least, by disintermediating epistemology, but hasn't been entirely normalized yet
09:26 < kanzure> .title https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.21.444556v2
09:26 < saxo> Partial reprogramming restores youthful gene expression through transient suppression of cell identity | bioRxiv
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